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Horse profile

Presumptuous (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2008) · Last trainer Sue Smith · Last owner Mr Mrs C Bradford Nutter Mr Mrs Jack Berry
by Double Trigger (IRE) out of T O O Mamma's (IRE) (Classic Secret I)
10 runs · 6 courses · from Mar 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Jan 2008 — 6,850 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2008 2 wins · Sedgefield & Southwell Last raced off OR 117
KTB Profile

Presumptuous (GB) is 2 from 10, both wins coming at Class 3 level. Hasn't won since Apr 2006. Last raced off a career-high mark of 117.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 3 OR at career high
Official rating117At career-high mark
117 105–117

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 123C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sedgefield, 27 Nov 2007 Official rating 117 at the last run, 26 Jan 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 123C · median 116.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good3123C97—
Good to Firm2121C116.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f4123C116.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 10 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Double Trigger (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 1,467 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses).

Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.4% from 195.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm600%−8.9—
Good to Firm136128.8%−0.11 from 2
Good4184210%+1.10 from 5
Good to Soft315268.3%−0.60 from 2
Soft355246.8%−2.11 from 1
Heavy1892211.6%+2.7—
Standard (AW)48510.4%+1.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−8.9—
1m – 1m1f200%−8.9—
1m2f – 1m4f4512.2%−6.7—
1m5f – 2m285258.8%−0.10 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f431327.4%−1.51 from 8
2m5f – 3m508418.1%−0.81 from 1
Over 3m1953216.4%+7.5—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
T O O Mamma's (IRE) (Classic Secret I)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Robertewenutter (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m4f–2m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Robertewenutter (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Robertewenutter (GB)921m7½f–2m1½fClass 4
Campbells Lad (GB)2811m4fClass 6

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 1 50% +0.75
Soft 1 1 100% +5.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 6 2 33% +3.25
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Doncaster 3 0 0% −3.00
Sedgefield 3 1 33% −0.25
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 1 100% +5.50
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 8 1 13% −1.50
2m5f – 3m 1 1 100% +1.75
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Dominic Elsworth 3 1 33% −0.25
Christian Williams 2 0 0% −2.00
Peter Buchanan 1 0 0% −1.00
Steven Gagan 1 0 0% −1.00
David O'Meara 1 1 100% +5.50
Dougie Costello 1 0 0% −1.00
Anthony Ross 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 1 0 0% −1.00
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 2 2 100% +7.25
2005 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 2 33% +3.25
Chase 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 1 run
26 Jan 08+31d Doncaster Janet Hopwood Happy Birthday Novices' Chase Class 3 · 19f · Good · 11 ran F/11 — 10-12 117— Peter Buchanan 33/1
2007 · 3 runs
26 Dec 07+29d Sedgefield totesport.com Beginners' Chase (Qualifier) Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 12 ran UR/12 — 10-6 —— Steven Gagan 6/1
27 Nov 07+13d Sedgefield Sendrig Construction Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 13 ran 2/13 9 11-2 —123C Christian Williams 11/1
14 Nov 07+572d Bangor-on-Dee David Manning Associates Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-2 —— Christian Williams 16/1
2006 · 2 runs
21 Apr 06+58d Sedgefield Wbx.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 21f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 1/11 11-3 115121C Dominic Elsworth 7/4F
22 Feb 06+65d Southwell Betfred Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 20.5f · Soft · 13 ran 1/13 10-11 105121C David O'Meara 11/2
2005 · 4 runs
19 Dec 05+9d Doncaster Sands Live Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 19.5f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 5/15 ¾ 10-11 105112C Dominic Elsworth 7/1
10 Dec 05+243d Doncaster Sykes Lawn Turf Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran F/11 — 11-2 105— Dominic Elsworth 13/2
11 Apr 05+30d Kelso Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 22 ran 14/22 5 11-2 10585C Dougie Costello 50/1
12 Mar 05 Ayr Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 20f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 11 11-3 11097C Anthony Ross 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Presumptuous won?
Presumptuous (GB) won 2 of 10 archived starts between 2005 and 2008, a strike rate of 20%. Placed 3 times in total (30% of starts).
Who trained Presumptuous?
Presumptuous (GB) was trained by Sue Smith on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 26 January 2008.
Who is Presumptuous's sire?
Presumptuous (GB) is by Double Trigger (IRE) out of T O O Mamma's (IRE), whose sire is Classic Secret I.
What is Presumptuous's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 117, from the run on 26 January 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is Presumptuous's sire's record?
Double Trigger (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 1,467 runs since Jan 2008 (154 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.4% from 195.
Who are Presumptuous's siblings?
Out of T O O Mamma's (IRE), Presumptuous (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Robertewenutter (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Robertewenutter (GB)). The wins came over 1m4f–2m1½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.