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Horse profile

Primitive Way (GB)

15yo gelding (at last run, May 2007) · Last trainer Sandy Forster · Last owner The Hon Gerald Maitland Carew
by Primitive Rising (USA) out of Potterway (GB) (Velvet Prince)
15 runs · 7 courses · from Feb 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 May 2007 — 7,109 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2007 Won at Kelso Last raced off OR 77
KTB Profile

Primitive Way (GB) is 1 from 15, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Oct 2005. Last raced off 77, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4 OR ↓ 18lb off peak
Official rating77↓ 18lb off peak
77 69–95

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 92C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Carlisle, 7 Apr 2007 Official rating 77 at the last run, 12 May 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 92C · median 77
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm491C74—
Good392C86—
Good to Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Over 3m592C91—
2m5f – 3m386C71—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 15 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5) · no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 15 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Primitive Rising (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 292 runs since Jan 2008 (32 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm11100%+88.4—
Good to Firm38718.4%+6.80 from 5
Good8778%−3.60 from 4
Good to Soft5823.4%−8.21 from 4
Soft611016.4%+4.80 from 1
Heavy47714.9%+3.30 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m3525.7%−5.9—
2m1f – 2m4f991414.1%+2.50 from 1
2m5f – 3m1121311.6%00 from 6
Over 3m46510.9%−0.71 from 8

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Potterway (GB) (Velvet Prince)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 4 1 25% +2.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 4 5 1 20% +1.00
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kelso 6 1 17% +0.00
Hexham 3 0 0% −3.00
Musselburgh 2 0 0% −2.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Over 3m 8 1 13% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 6 0 0% −6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Dougie Costello 4 0 0% −4.00
Brian Harding 4 1 25% +2.00
Mr P Maitland-Carew 3 0 0% −3.00
Ryan Cummings 2 0 0% −2.00
T J Dreaper 1 0 0% −1.00
Oliver Williams 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 5 0 0% −5.00
Visor 5 1 20% +1.00
Cheekpieces 5 0 0% −5.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 7 0 0% −7.00
2005 5 1 20% +1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2007 · 3 runs
12 May 07+35d Hexham Jimmy Richardson Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 16 ran PU/16 — 10-11 77— Ryan Cummings 20/1
07 Apr 07+51d Carlisle Robert Elliott Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 26f · Good · 17 ran 2/17 4 9-7 6992C Ryan Cummings 20/1
15 Feb 07+47d Kelso Kelso Members Handicap Chase Class 5 · 25f · Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-6 71— T J Dreaper 18/1
2006 · 7 runs
30 Dec 06+20d Musselburgh totequadpot 'Amateur Riders' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 2 10-4 7386C Oliver Williams 14/1
10 Dec 06+23d Musselburgh East Lothian Council Tolbooth Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-1 81— Dougie Costello 20/1
17 Nov 06+49d Kelso Arpal Chemicals Handicap Chase Class 4 · 28f · Good To Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-4 87— Brian Harding 20/1
29 Sep 06+142d Hexham Youngs Chartered Surveyors Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 30 11-5 8871C Brian Harding 11/1
10 May 06+12d Kelso Glendale Engineering Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 4/8 7 10-2 8959C Dougie Costello 13/2
28 Apr 06+4d Perth Press & Journal Highland National Handicap Chase Class 4 · 30.5f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 2/12 2½ 10-2 8991C Dougie Costello 14/1
24 Apr 06+184d Hexham Living North Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 shd 11-3 8974C Dougie Costello 9/1
2005 · 5 runs
22 Oct 05+20d Kelso Mayfield Restaurant Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-8 8791C Brian Harding 5/1
02 Oct 05+137d Kelso Sunday Mail Handicap Chase Class 3 · 25f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 2/6 1½ 10-0 8977C Brian Harding 7/1
18 May 05+68d Kelso Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 25f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 4/9 6 11-0 95— Mr P Maitland-Carew 14/1
11 Mar 05+24d Ayr Norwich Union Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-2 95— Mr P Maitland-Carew 50/1
15 Feb 05 Newcastle Hunters' Chase Class 6 · 23.5f · Heavy · 9 ran 3/9 26 10-10 9564C Mr P Maitland-Carew 6/1

Quick answers

How many races has Primitive Way won?
Primitive Way (GB) won 1 of 15 archived starts between 2005 and 2007, a strike rate of 6.7%. Placed 6 times in total (40% of starts).
Who trained Primitive Way?
Primitive Way (GB) was trained by Sandy Forster on the most recent run on record, at Hexham on 12 May 2007.
Who is Primitive Way's sire?
Primitive Way (GB) is by Primitive Rising (USA) out of Potterway (GB), whose sire is Velvet Prince.
What going does Primitive Way prefer?
Primitive Way (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Primitive Way's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 77, from the run on 12 May 2007. The highest on record is 95.
What is Primitive Way's sire's record?
Primitive Rising (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.6% of 292 runs since Jan 2008 (32 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from February 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.