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Horse profile

Sale Or Return (IRE)

2yo filly (at last run, Nov 2008) · Last trainer Tim Easterby · Last owner Habton Farms
by Fath (USA) out of Kaguyahime (GB) (Distant Relative)
9 runs · 6 courses · from Apr 2008
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Nov 2008 — 6,567 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2008 · 5th of 9 Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 51
KTB Profile

Sale Or Return (IRE) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 16 at Beverley (Sep 2008).

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
Official rating51↓ 4lb off peak
51 48–55

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 56A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Nottingham, 8 Oct 2008 Official rating 51 at the last run, 12 Nov 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 9 figures · best 73A · median 40
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)257A48.5—
Good254A43.5—
Soft273A64.5—
Good to Firm1———
Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Under 6f673A55—
6f – 7f340A35—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Fath (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 2,349 runs since Jan 2008 (98 horses).

Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.3% from 112. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.2% from 167.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm39410.3%+1.40 from 1
Good to Firm462429.1%+0.20 from 1
Good451439.5%+0.60 from 2
Good to Soft254259.8%+0.90 from 1
Soft320268.1%−0.80 from 2
Heavy13486%−2.9—
Standard (AW)689608.7%−0.20 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f404379.2%+0.30 from 6
6f – 7f986929.3%+0.40 from 3
1m – 1m1f387328.3%−0.6—
1m2f – 1m4f16774.2%−4.7—
1m5f – 2m284238.1%−0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f1121614.3%+5.4—
2m5f – 3m9111.1%+2.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Kaguyahime (GB) (Distant Relative)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Martha Elizabeth (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m2½f–1m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Martha Elizabeth (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Martha Elizabeth (IRE)2021m2½f–1m7½fClass 4
Amelia Anne (IRE)80——
Royal Portrait (GB)60——
Mystic Mover (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 6 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Beverley 3 0 0% −3.00
Southwell (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Thirsk 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 6 0 0% −6.00
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Duran Fentiman 4 0 0% −4.00
David Allan 4 0 0% −4.00
Robert Winston 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 6 0 0% −6.00
None 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 9 runs
12 Nov 08+26d Southwell (AW) Membership At Southwell Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 9 ran 5/9 4½ 8-4 5140A Duran Fentiman 8/1
17 Oct 08+9d Redcar Redcar Conference Centre Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Good · 20 ran 13/20 2 8-1 4833A Duran Fentiman 33/1
08 Oct 08+8d Nottingham Calyx Software Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Soft · 13 ran 8/13 hd 8-11 5556A David Allan 14/1
30 Sep 08+13d Southwell (AW) toteplacepot Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 13 ran 5/13 1 8-6 5557A David Allan 10/1
17 Sep 08+50d Beverley Beverley Annual Badgeholders Selling Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Soft · 16 ran 2/16 5 8-12 5473A David Allan 12/1
29 Jul 08+14d Beverley Book Online Maiden Auction Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 9/12 2¾ 8-1 —27A Duran Fentiman 50/1
15 Jul 08+28d Beverley Casino Red Huddersfield Opens August Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good · 11 ran 5/11 3 8-1 4854A Duran Fentiman 40/1
17 Jun 08+57d Thirsk Fairfax Arms Selling Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Firm · 12 ran 5/12 2¾ 8-9 4835A David Allan 25/1
21 Apr 08 Pontefract Dem Window Solutions Median Auction Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 6/7 11 9-0 4819C Robert Winston 9/2

Quick answers

How many races has Sale Or Return won?
Sale Or Return (IRE) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts in 2008. Placed 1 time in total (11.1% of starts).
Who trained Sale Or Return?
Sale Or Return (IRE) was trained by Tim Easterby on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 12 November 2008.
Who is Sale Or Return's sire?
Sale Or Return (IRE) is by Fath (USA) out of Kaguyahime (GB), whose sire is Distant Relative.
What is Sale Or Return's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 51, from the run on 12 November 2008. The highest on record is 55.
What is Sale Or Return's sire's record?
Fath (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 2,349 runs since Jan 2008 (98 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.3% from 112. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.2% from 167.
Who are Sale Or Return's siblings?
Out of Kaguyahime (GB), Sale Or Return (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Martha Elizabeth (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Martha Elizabeth (IRE)). The wins came over 1m2½f–1m7½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.