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Horse profile

Sally's Dilemma (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Jan 2009) · Last trainer Bill Turner · Last owner E A Brook
by Primo Valentino (IRE) out of Lake Mistassiu (GB) (Tina's Pet)
11 runs · 8 courses · from Mar 2008
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jan 2009 — 6,512 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2009 · 4th of 4 Won at Doncaster Last raced off OR 63
KTB Profile

Sally's Dilemma (GB) is 1 from 11, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Mar 2008. The win came on turf — 0 from 6 on the all-weather.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Win at Class 4

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Sally's Dilemma (GB) has 1 produce in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Lagan Honey (GB)10——
Official rating63↓ 6lb off peak
63 54–69

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 54A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 22 Dec 2008 Official rating 63 at the last run, 6 Jan 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 109A · median 51
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)655A41—
Good236B31.5—
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Under 6f7109A55—
6f – 7f454A41—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Primo Valentino (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.4% of 1,160 runs since Jan 2008 (78 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 13.6% from 132. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 12.2% from 181. Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 3.3% from 183.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2114.8%−3.6—
Good to Firm222156.8%−1.60 from 1
Good2632710.3%+1.90 from 2
Good to Soft1321813.6%+5.21 from 1
Soft1261310.3%+1.90 from 1
Heavy2813.6%−4.8—
Standard (AW)368226%−2.40 from 6
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f18363.3%−5.11 from 7
6f – 7f271145.2%−3.20 from 4
1m – 1m1f1912111%+2.6—
1m2f – 1m4f2392510.5%+2.1—
1m5f – 2m1812212.2%+3.8—
2m1f – 2m4f6169.8%+1.4—
2m5f – 3m3139.7%+1.3—
Over 3m300%−8.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lake Mistassiu (GB) (Tina's Pet)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Celtic Thunder (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Celtic Thunder (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Celtic Thunder (GB)2126fClass 5
Killer Katy (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 1 100% +7.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 3 1 33% +5.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Kempton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Chelmsford (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 1 100% +7.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 7 1 14% +1.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jack Dean 6 0 0% −6.00
Tolley Dean 4 1 25% +4.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 6 0 0% −6.00
None 4 1 25% +4.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2008 9 1 11% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2009 · 2 runs
06 Jan 09+4d Southwell (AW) Hospitality At Southwell Racecourse Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 4 ran 4/4 17 8-5 6325C Tolley Dean 22/1
02 Jan 09+11d Southwell (AW) Alison Green's Big Birthday Today Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 6 ran 5/6 5 8-6 6331B Tolley Dean 4/1
2008 · 9 runs
22 Dec 08+12d Kempton (AW) Bet King George Vi Chase - Betdaq Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 8/10 ¾ 8-3 6354A Luke Morris 20/1
10 Dec 08+4d Southwell (AW) Tickets On Line At southwell-racecourse.co.uk Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 4 ran 3/4 hd 8-8 6351B Jack Dean 10/1
06 Dec 08+22d Chelmsford (AW) Free Betting @ freebets.co.uk Nursery Class 4 · 5f · Standard · 9 ran 9/9 4½ 8-4 6925A Jack Dean 20/1
14 Nov 08+179d Kempton (AW) Bet Cheltenham - Betdaq Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 11 ran 6/11 ½ 8-11 6855A Jack Dean 33/1
19 May 08+3d Bath E.B.F./Lindley Catering Novice Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 4 ran 2/4 6 8-9 5459B Jack Dean 5/2
16 May 08+12d Newbury Berry Bros & Rudd Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 5f · Good · 5 ran 4/5 12 8-10 5436B Tolley Dean 25/1
04 May 08+32d Salisbury totequadpot Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 5f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 9 8-5 —27C Jack Dean 4/1
02 Apr 08+11d Nottingham E.B.F. Novice Stakes Class 4 · 5f · Soft · 4 ran 2/4 6 8-7 5457B Jack Dean 4/5F
22 Mar 08 Doncaster williamhillpoker.com Brocklesby Conditions Stakes Class 4 · 5f · Good To Soft · 19 ran 1/19 8-3 54109A Tolley Dean 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Sally's Dilemma won?
Sally's Dilemma (GB) won 1 of 11 archived starts between 2008 and 2009, a strike rate of 9.1%. Placed 1 time in total (9.1% of starts).
Who trained Sally's Dilemma?
Sally's Dilemma (GB) was trained by Bill Turner on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 6 January 2009.
Who is Sally's Dilemma's sire?
Sally's Dilemma (GB) is by Primo Valentino (IRE) out of Lake Mistassiu (GB), whose sire is Tina's Pet.
What is Sally's Dilemma's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 63, from the run on 6 January 2009. The highest on record is 69.
What is Sally's Dilemma's sire's record?
Primo Valentino (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.4% of 1,160 runs since Jan 2008 (78 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 13.6% from 132. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 12.2% from 181. Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 3.3% from 183.
Who are Sally's Dilemma's siblings?
Out of Lake Mistassiu (GB), Sally's Dilemma (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Celtic Thunder (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Celtic Thunder (GB)). The wins came over 6f. As at Nov 2026.
Has Sally's Dilemma produced winners?
As a dam, Sally's Dilemma (GB) has 1 produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from March 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.