Say No Now (IRE)
Say No Now (IRE) is 1 from 8, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since May 2009. Last raced off a career-high mark of 100.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Say No Now (IRE) has 6 produce in the archive, 3 winners — most wins Spinning Melody (USA) (2 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Spinning Melody (USA)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spinning Melody (USA) | 4 | 2 | 1m2f | Class 4 |
| Inverinate (IRE) | 25 | 1 | 7f | Class 6 |
| Diva D (IRE) | 10 | 1 | 7f | Class 6 |
| Say It's Me (GB) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Pleadings (USA) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
| Now Say Yes (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
- 1–8Wins / Runs
- 12.5%Strike rate
- 5 (62.5%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 0.73Fair A/E n=8 · 0.64 incl. margin
- 100Highest OR
- 19dBetween runs (median)longest 228 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,868 runs since Apr 2008 (320 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 58 | 4 | 6.9% | −2.9 | 1 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 952 | 89 | 9.3% | −0.5 | 0 from 4 |
| Good | 1,094 | 109 | 10% | +0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 555 | 56 | 10.1% | +0.3 | — |
| Soft | 715 | 70 | 9.8% | 0 | — |
| Heavy | 245 | 20 | 8.2% | −1.6 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,249 | 129 | 10.3% | +0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 290 | 31 | 10.7% | +0.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,529 | 143 | 9.4% | −0.4 | 0 from 3 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,041 | 106 | 10.2% | +0.4 | 1 from 4 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 944 | 87 | 9.2% | −0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 671 | 61 | 9.1% | −0.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 297 | 34 | 11.4% | +1.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 90 | 15 | 16.7% | +6.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
9 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Poetic Justice (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Poetic Justice (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Poetic Justice (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 6f | Class 2 |
| Both Lucky (IRE) | 5 | 1 | 6f | — |
| Dream Cast (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 5f | Class 6 |
| Lamps Of Heaven (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Atlas Mountain (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Night Premiere (IRE) | 18 | 0 | — | — |
| Powerful Star (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Threeinoneday (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Vaigly Xaar (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 1 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sandown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Nottingham | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 1 | 25% | −2.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ted Durcan | 6 | 1 | 17% | −4.00 |
| Martin Dwyer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Hills | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 6 | 1 | 17% | −4.00 |
| 2008 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 10 Sep 09+19d | Doncaster | Japan Racing Association Sceptre Stakes (Fillies' Listed) | 3/10 | ½ | 8-10 | 100 | 94A | Martin Dwyer | 20/1 |
| 22 Aug 09+49d | Sandown | Iveco Atalanta Stakes (Fillies' Listed) | 5/9 | 1¼ | 8-8 | 100 | 80A | Richard Hills | 8/1 |
| 04 Jul 09+17d | Sandown | Coral Distaff (Fillies Listed) | 2/9 | 2 | 8-12 | 100 | 98A | Ted Durcan | 6/1 |
| 17 Jun 09+27d | Ascot | Sandringham Handicap (Fillies' Listed) (Str) | 8/19 | hd | 8-7 | 90 | 77A | Ted Durcan | 16/1 |
| 21 May 09+13d | Goodwood | Height Of Fashion Stakes (Fillies' Listed) | 3/8 | 1¼ | 9-0 | 90 | 85A | Ted Durcan | 10/1 |
| 08 May 09+228d | Nottingham | Toteswinger Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 1) | 1/9 | 9-0 | 85 | 79A | Ted Durcan | EvensF | |
| 2008 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 22 Sep 08+17d | Kempton (AW) | Avanta E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 1) | 2/14 | 3¼ | 9-0 | — | 87A | Ted Durcan | 7/2 |
| 05 Sep 08 | Kempton (AW) | E.B.F. Seeability Saving Sight Fillies' Conditions Stakes | 2/4 | ½ | 8-12 | — | 92B | Ted Durcan | 6/4F |
Quick answers
- How many races has Say No Now won?
- Say No Now (IRE) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2008 and 2009, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 5 times in total (62.5% of starts).
- Who trained Say No Now?
- Say No Now (IRE) was trained by David Lanigan on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 10 September 2009.
- Who is Say No Now's sire?
- Say No Now (IRE) is by Refuse To Bend (IRE) out of Star Studded (GB), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
- What is Say No Now's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 10 September 2009. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Say No Now's sire's record?
- Refuse To Bend (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,868 runs since Apr 2008 (320 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Say No Now's siblings?
- Out of Star Studded (GB), Say No Now (IRE) has 9 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Poetic Justice (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Poetic Justice (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Nov 2026.
- Has Say No Now produced winners?
- As a dam, Say No Now (IRE) has 6 produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Spinning Melody (USA) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Spinning Melody (USA)). The wins came over 7f–1m2f. As at Nov 2026.