Skip to content
Horse profile

Say What You See (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2005) · Last trainer M C Pipe · Last owner Sharp Minds Betfair Syndicate
by Charnwood Forest (IRE) out of Aster Aweke (IRE) (Alzao)
5 runs · 5 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Jul 2005 — 7,770 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2005 · 9th of 17 Last raced off OR 127
KTB Profile

Say What You See (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 18 at Aintree (Apr 2005). Last raced off a career-high mark of 127.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating127At career-high mark
127 118–127

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 126C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Stratford, 14 Mar 2005 Official rating 127 at the last run, 28 Jul 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 126C · median 116
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good3117C116—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m5126C116—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Charnwood Forest (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 232 runs since Jan 2008 (22 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−4.7—
Good to Firm3512.9%−1.80 from 1
Good7134.2%−0.50 from 3
Good to Soft3837.9%+3.20 from 1
Soft4724.3%−0.4—
Heavy1815.6%+0.9—
Standard (AW)2114.8%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f400%−4.7—
1m – 1m1f2114.8%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1300%−4.7—
1m5f – 2m7234.2%−0.50 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f7867.7%+3—
2m5f – 3m3100%−4.7—
Over 3m1317.7%+3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Aster Aweke (IRE) (Alzao)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Another Bottle (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Another Bottle (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Another Bottle (IRE)2321m–2m1fClass 2
Another Bottle I (IRE)311m–2m1fClass 2
Masters House (IRE)80——
Ali Tango (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Timmy Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
Tony Dobbin 2 0 0% −2.00
Warren Marston 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2005 · 5 runs
28 Jul 05+110d Galway Guinness Galway Handicap Hurdle 2m · Good To Firm · 17 ran 9/17 ¾ 9-12 127104C Timmy Murphy 14/1
09 Apr 05+26d Aintree Handicap Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 2m½f · Good · 18 ran 2/18 8 10-6 123116C Tony Dobbin 50/1
14 Mar 05+45d Stratford Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 2/15 2 11-8 118126C Tony Dobbin 10/1
28 Jan 05+13d Doncaster Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m½f · Good · 11 ran 2/11 15 11-12 118117C Timmy Murphy 3/1
15 Jan 05 Kempton Lanzarote Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m · Good · 21 ran 20/21 1½ 10-13 12078C Warren Marston 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Say What You See won?
Say What You See (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2005. Placed 3 times in total (60% of starts).
Who trained Say What You See?
Say What You See (IRE) was trained by M C Pipe on the most recent run on record, at Galway on 28 July 2005.
Who is Say What You See's sire?
Say What You See (IRE) is by Charnwood Forest (IRE) out of Aster Aweke (IRE), whose sire is Alzao.
What is Say What You See's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 127, from the run on 28 July 2005. That is also the highest on record.
What is Say What You See's sire's record?
Charnwood Forest (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 4.7% of 232 runs since Jan 2008 (22 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Say What You See's siblings?
Out of Aster Aweke (IRE), Say What You See (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Another Bottle (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Another Bottle (IRE)). The wins came over 1m–2m1f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.