Say When (GB)
Say When (GB) is yet to win from 10 starts. Best effort: 4th of 7 at Huntingdon (Oct 2014). Last raced off 97, 8lb below the career-high mark.
- 0–10Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −10.00£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=10 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 105Highest OR
- 88dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 2,578 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 138 | 10 | 7.2% | −0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 983 | 69 | 7% | −0.3 | 0 from 6 |
| Good to Soft | 533 | 35 | 6.6% | −0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 554 | 40 | 7.2% | −0.1 | — |
| Heavy | 258 | 26 | 10.1% | +2.8 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 105 | 7 | 6.7% | −0.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 10 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 17 | 1 | 5.9% | −1.4 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 39 | 2 | 5.1% | −2.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 66 | 4 | 6.1% | −1.2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,002 | 70 | 7% | −0.3 | 0 from 9 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 862 | 73 | 8.5% | +1.2 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 503 | 34 | 6.8% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 79 | 3 | 3.8% | −3.5 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Third Level Tom (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 2m3½f–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 1 (Third Level Tom (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Third Level Tom (GB) | 39 | 5 | 2m4f–3m½f | Class 1 |
| Forresters Folly (GB) | 27 | 2 | 2m3½f–2m4f | Class 4 |
| Vivace (GB) | 7 | 1 | 2m4f | — |
| Lady Malousa (GB) | 15 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ffos Las | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wincanton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Uttoxeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robert Thornton | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Mr Jamie Insole | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wayne Hutchinson | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Harry Teal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leighton Aspell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Bellamy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2015 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2014 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2013 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Say When (GB) won?
- Say When (GB) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2013 and 2015.
- Who trained Say When (GB)?
- Say When (GB) was trained by Alan King on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 23 July 2015.
- Who is Say When (GB)'s sire?
- Say When (GB) is by Fair Mix (IRE) out of Miss Wyandotte (GB), whose sire is Henbit.
- What is Say When (GB)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 97, from the run on 23 July 2015. The highest on record is 105.
- What is Say When (GB)'s sire's record?
- Fair Mix (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 2,578 runs since Jan 2008 (251 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Say When (GB)'s siblings?
- Out of Miss Wyandotte (GB), Say When (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Third Level Tom (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 1 (Third Level Tom (GB)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.