Say You'll Never (IRE)
Say You'll Never (IRE) is yet to win from 7 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 5 at Brighton (May 2024). Last raced off a career-high mark of 64.
- 0–7Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 3 (42.9%)Placed
- −7.00£1 level staken=7 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=7 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 64Highest OR
- 37dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 98
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 4 | 98A | 83.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 48C | 38 | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 98A | 83.5 | — |
| Under 6f | 3 | 84C | 48 | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,986 runs since Jan 2008 (1,508 horses).
Strongest on firm going: 17.3% from 150. Weakest on heavy going: 8.5% from 481. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.1% from 790.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 150 | 26 | 17.3% | +5.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 3,275 | 437 | 13.3% | +1.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 3,828 | 427 | 11.2% | −0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 1,822 | 202 | 11.1% | −0.7 | — |
| Soft | 1,778 | 163 | 9.2% | −2.6 | — |
| Heavy | 481 | 41 | 8.5% | −3.3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 6,650 | 819 | 12.3% | +0.5 | 0 from 4 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 2,101 | 294 | 14% | +2.2 | 0 from 3 |
| 6f – 7f | 7,711 | 931 | 12.1% | +0.3 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4,378 | 520 | 11.9% | +0.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,667 | 282 | 10.6% | −1.2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 790 | 56 | 7.1% | −4.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 272 | 30 | 11% | −0.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 63 | 3 | 4.8% | −7 | — |
| Over 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −11.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Monoglow (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Comvida (IRE) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 6 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brighton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chelmsford City (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Under 6f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marco Ghiani | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Neil Callan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Josephine Gordon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2023 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 28 Jun 24+10d | Yarmouth | Quinnbet Daily Free Bet Fillies' Handicap | 7/7 | 15 | 9-4 | 64 | 48C | 10C | Josephine Gordon | 28/1 |
| 18 Jun 24+48d | Brighton | Download The Raceday Ready App Handicap | 4/4 | 16 | 9-8 | 64 | 28C | 19C | Marco Ghiani | 2/1 |
| 01 May 24+29d | Brighton | Bet 10 Get 10 At Yeeehaaa.Bet Handicap | 2/5 | nk | 9-8 | 61 | 84C | 68B | Marco Ghiani | 5/2 |
| 02 Apr 24+47d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Free Digital Racecard At raceday-ready.com Fillies' Handicap | 3/7 | ½ | 9-1 | 62 | 98A | 67A | Neil Callan | 10/3 |
| 15 Feb 24+56d | Chelmsford City (AW) | Racing Welfare Restricted Maiden Fillies' Stakes (GBB Race) | 3/9 | ¾ | 8-12 | — | 85A | 77A | Marco Ghiani | 11/2 |
| 21 Dec 23+33d | Chelmsford City (AW) | EBF Fillies' Restricted Novice Stakes (GBB Race) | 5/10 | 1¼ | 9-2 | — | 82A | 58A | Marco Ghiani | 5/1 |
| 18 Nov 23 | Wolverhampton (AW) | BetMGM - Stay Golden With Responsible Play EBF Restricted Maiden Fillies' Stakes (GBB Race) | 3/8 | ½ | 9-2 | — | 78A | 66A | Neil Callan | 8/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Say You'll Never (IRE) won?
- Say You'll Never (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2023 and 2024. Placed 3 times in total (42.9% of starts).
- Who trained Say You'll Never (IRE)?
- Say You'll Never (IRE) was trained by Marco Botti on the most recent run on record, at Yarmouth on 28 June 2024.
- Who is Say You'll Never (IRE)'s sire?
- Say You'll Never (IRE) is by Oasis Dream (GB) out of Savida (IRE), whose sire is King's Best.
- What is Say You'll Never (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 64, from the run on 28 June 2024. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Say You'll Never (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Oasis Dream (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,986 runs since Jan 2008 (1,508 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 17.3% from 150. Weakest on heavy going: 8.5% from 481. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.1% from 790.
- Who are Say You'll Never (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Savida (IRE), Say You'll Never (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.