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Horse profile

Smile And Pay (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2023) · Last trainer Craig Lidster · Last owner Craig Lidster Racing Club
14 runs · 9 courses · from Jun 2022
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 31 Oct 2023 — 1,101 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2023 · 10th of 11 2 wins · Redcar & Catterick Last raced off OR 66
KTB Profile

Smile And Pay won two of 14 starts, both at Class 6 in handicaps on good to soft going. The gelding landed a 6f-7f event at Catterick in Apr 2023 and followed up over 1m-1m1f at Redcar the next month off an official rating of 55. He raced off a mark of 66 when finishing 10 of 11 at Catterick in Oct 2023. All wins came on turf.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 6
Official rating66↓ 1lb off peak
66 53–67

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 101 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Redcar, 4 May 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 14 figures · best 101A · median 70.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft371C70—
Good to Soft3101A97—
Standard (AW)375A72—
Heavy2101A69—
Good to Firm272A59—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
6f – 7f12101A64—
1m – 1m1f2101A86.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 14 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 73A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Redcar, 4 May 2023 Official rating 66 at the last run, 31 Oct 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 14 figures · best 84A · median 56
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft373A61—
Good to Soft384A73—
Standard (AW)358A50—
Heavy265C58—
Good to Firm248C38—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
6f – 7f1284A56—
1m – 1m1f273A50.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 14 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 1,099 runs since Apr 2022 (97 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 14% from 107.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm700%−7.6—
Good to Firm143128.4%+0.80 from 2
Good273207.3%−0.30 from 1
Good to Soft1071514%+6.42 from 3
Soft141139.2%+1.60 from 3
Heavy4512.2%−5.40 from 2
Standard (AW)383236%−1.60 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f158127.6%0—
6f – 7f466275.8%−1.81 from 12
1m – 1m1f2382410.1%+2.51 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f130107.7%+0.1—
1m5f – 2m64812.5%+4.9—
2m1f – 2m4f3837.9%+0.3—
2m5f – 3m500%−7.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2022 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Say Grace (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 5½f–7½f; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Say Grace (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Say Grace (IRE)3227f–7½fClass 6
The Pantry (IRE)315½f—
Tosen Aisling (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 2 67% +1.91
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 7 2 29% −2.09
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Redcar 3 1 33% −1.09
Catterick 2 1 50% +1.00
Leicester 2 0 0% −2.00
Pontefract 2 0 0% −2.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 12 1 8% −9.00
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% −0.09

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
William Pyle 7 2 29% −2.09
Sam James 3 0 0% −3.00
Connor Murtagh 2 0 0% −2.00
P J McDonald 1 0 0% −1.00
Tony Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 7 2 29% −2.09
Hood + blinkers 4 0 0% −4.00
None 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 7 2 29% −2.09
2022 7 0 0% −7.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 7 runs
31 Oct 23+14d Catterick racingtv.com/freetrial Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Heavy · 11 ran 10/11 7½ 9-6 6637C65C P J McDonald 22/1
17 Oct 23+166d Leicester Ye Olde Pork Pie Shoppe Trotter Selling Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Soft · 8 ran 7/8 1 9-3 6771C54C William Pyle 5/1
04 May 23+8d Redcar Watch Race Replays At Racingtv.Com Handicap Class 6 · 1m · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 9-8 55101A73A William Pyle 10/11F
26 Apr 23+12d Catterick Racing Again 15th May Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 9-2 5597A84A William Pyle 2/1
14 Apr 23+4d Leicester Best Ticket Deals Online At leicester-racecourse.co.uk Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 7f · Heavy · 11 ran 4/11 ¾ 8-9 55101A51A William Pyle 15/2
10 Apr 23+8d Redcar Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Soft · 12 ran 3/12 1 9-0 5356A61A William Pyle 5/2F
02 Apr 23+107d Doncaster Made In Doncaster St Leger Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 7f · Soft · 13 ran 3/13 1¾ 8-11 5370C73A William Pyle 100/1
2022 · 7 runs
16 Dec 22+27d Southwell (AW) It's Time To Turn To talkSPORT Nursery Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 12/14 shd 9-3 5452B47A Connor Murtagh 10/1
19 Nov 22+59d Wolverhampton (AW) It's Time To Turn To talkSPORT Nursery Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 9 ran 3/9 1¼ 9-3 5475A58A Connor Murtagh 18/1
21 Sep 22+16d Redcar racingtv.com/freetrial Nursery Class 6 · 1m · Good To Firm · 10 ran 10/10 5½ 9-4 5472A28A Sam James 4/1
05 Sep 22+36d Newcastle (AW) Go Racing With Vickers.Bet Nursery Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 3/13 nk 8-9 5372B50A William Pyle 7/1
31 Jul 22+16d Chester British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 6/8 1¾ 9-7 —58C60C Sam James 200/1
15 Jul 22+18d Pontefract Fiat Professional Tecnico Range At Northern Commercials EBF Restricted Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 10/12 1¼ 9-4 —46C48C Sam James 100/1
27 Jun 22 Pontefract British Stallion Studs EBF Spindrifter Conditions Stakes (GBB Race) Class 2 · 6f · Good · 6 ran 6/6 17 8-11 —27C44C Tony Hamilton 150/1

Quick answers

How many races has Smile And Pay won?
Smile And Pay (IRE) won 2 of 14 archived starts between 2022 and 2023, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 6 times in total (42.9% of starts).
Who trained Smile And Pay?
Smile And Pay (IRE) was trained by Craig Lidster on the most recent run on record, at Catterick on 31 October 2023.
Who is Smile And Pay's sire?
Smile And Pay (IRE) is by Kessaar (IRE) out of Break Bread (IRE), whose sire is Big Bad Bob.
What going does Smile And Pay prefer?
Smile And Pay (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Smile And Pay's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 66, from the run on 31 October 2023. The highest on record is 67.
What is Smile And Pay's sire's record?
Kessaar (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.6% of 1,099 runs since Apr 2022 (97 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 14% from 107.
Who are Smile And Pay's siblings?
Out of Break Bread (IRE), Smile And Pay (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Say Grace (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Say Grace (IRE)). The wins came over 5½f–7½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from June 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.