How many races has So They Say won?

So They Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2010 and 2011.

Who trained So They Say?

So They Say (IRE) was trained by Paul John Gilligan on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 20 March 2011.

Who is So They Say's sire?

So They Say (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Cadew Point (IRE), whose sire is Be My Native.

Who are So They Say's siblings?

Out of Cadew Point (IRE), So They Say (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Bold Buccaneer (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.

Horse profile

So They Say (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2011) · Last trainer Paul John Gilligan · Last owner Super Eight Syndicate

by Beneficial (GB) out of Cadew Point (IRE) (Be My Native)

2 runs · 2 courses · from Oct 2010

As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 20 Mar 2011 — 5,709 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Mar 2011 · 14th of 18

KTB Profile

Lightly raced, with 2 archived starts between Oct 2010 and Mar 2011, the last of them as a 5yo gelding. Finished 14 of 18 at Cork last time. By Beneficial (GB), whose progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,045 runs since Jan 2008.

Based on 2 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026

0–2Wins / Runs
0%Strike rate
0 (0%)Placed
−2.00£1 level staken=2 at SP
147dBetween runs (median)

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88^C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Cork, 20 Mar 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 88^C · median 84.5

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 5 Nov 2025
Soft	1	—	—	—
Good	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 5 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m	2	88^C	84.5	—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 2 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,045 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Firm	66	5	7.6%	−2.8	—
Good to Firm	939	107	11.4%	+1	—
Good	5,296	549	10.4%	0	0 from 1
Good to Soft	2,467	267	10.8%	+0.4	—
Soft	5,057	519	10.3%	−0.1	0 from 1
Heavy	3,159	328	10.4%	0	—
Standard (AW)	61	6	9.8%	−0.6	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
6f – 7f	2	0	0%	−10.4	—
1m – 1m1f	10	1	10%	−0.4	—
1m2f – 1m4f	64	5	7.8%	−2.6	—
1m5f – 2m	4,890	502	10.3%	−0.1	0 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f	6,355	661	10.4%	0	—
2m5f – 3m	4,702	522	11.1%	+0.7	—
Over 3m	1,022	90	8.8%	−1.6	—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

Cadew Point (IRE) (Be My Native)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Bold Buccaneer (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m.

Produce	Runs	Wins	Win trips	Best grade
Bold Buccaneer (IRE)	3	1	2m	—
Notdisbutdat (IRE)	5	0	—	—

Too few runs for meaningful splits. The full record is below.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	KTB	Jockey	SP
2011 · 1 run
20 Mar 11+147d	Cork	Student Raceday March 31st Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding To Soft · 18 ran	14/18	11	11-12	88^C	A E Lynch	14/1
2010 · 1 run
24 Oct 10	Galway	T.V.O'brien Memorial (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m · Good · 8 ran	6/8	14	11-3	81^C	Brian Cawley	10/1

Quick answers

How many races has So They Say won?: So They Say (IRE) has yet to win, from 2 archived starts between 2010 and 2011.
Who trained So They Say?: So They Say (IRE) was trained by Paul John Gilligan on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 20 March 2011.
Who is So They Say's sire?: So They Say (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Cadew Point (IRE), whose sire is Be My Native.
What is So They Say's sire's record?: Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 17,045 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are So They Say's siblings?: Out of Cadew Point (IRE), So They Say (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Bold Buccaneer (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.