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Horse profile

So They Say (GB)

8yo mare (at last run, Apr 2024) · Last trainer Lucinda Russell · Last owner The Osprey Partnership
by Malinas (GER) out of Feisty Lass (IRE) (Flemensfirth)
9 runs · 4 courses · from Feb 2022
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Apr 2024 — 923 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2024 Won at Musselburgh Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

So They Say won one of nine starts over jumps, the success coming in a Class 5 handicap chase at Musselburgh in Jan 2024 over 2m5f – 3m on soft ground. All three runs at Musselburgh produced that win while she was 0 from three at Kelso. The mare, by Malinas out of a Flemensfirth mare, last ran at Perth in Apr 2024 when she raced off her career-high mark of 105.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 5 OR at career high
Official rating105At career-high mark
105 95–105

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 115 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Newcastle, 26 Feb 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 115A · median 94
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Heavy1———
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2115A79.5—
2m5f – 3m2102C94—

Of 9 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (4) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 121B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Musselburgh, 5 Jan 2024 Official rating 105 at the last run, 26 Apr 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 122A · median 119
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft3122A121—
Good to Soft2117A106—
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m5122A119—
2m1f – 2m4f2119B107—

Of 9 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Malinas (GER)

Progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 3,957 runs since Apr 2010 (419 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−14.2—
Good to Firm37616.2%+2—
Good1,19117014.3%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft92014115.3%+1.10 from 3
Soft1,23816613.4%−0.81 from 4
Heavy5357514%−0.20 from 1
Standard (AW)3412.9%−11.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−14.2—
1m – 1m1f1218.3%−5.9—
1m2f – 1m4f50510%−4.2—
1m5f – 2m1,10315313.9%−0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f1,37218213.3%−0.90 from 2
2m5f – 3m1,08617816.4%+2.21 from 7
Over 3m3324112.3%−1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2010 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Feisty Lass (IRE) (Flemensfirth)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Never Told Me (GB)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 4 1 25% −1.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 4 1 25% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Musselburgh 3 1 33% +0.00
Kelso 3 0 0% −3.00
Newcastle 2 0 0% −2.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 7 1 14% −4.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Derek Fox 8 0 0% −8.00
Patrick Wadge 1 1 100% +2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2024 4 1 25% −1.00
2023 3 0 0% −3.00
2022 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 5 1 20% −2.00
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 4 runs
26 Apr 24+52d Perth Muirhall Energy Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 3m · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-5 105—— Derek Fox 5/1
05 Mar 24+16d Newcastle Get Raceday Ready Mares' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m4f · Heavy · 4 ran 3/4 2¾ 12-0 10544C119B Derek Fox 5/4F
18 Feb 24+44d Musselburgh Watch Racing TV Now Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m7½f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 nk 10-12 103—119A Derek Fox 4/1
05 Jan 24+18d Musselburgh tote Placepot, Win Without A Winner Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m7½f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-7 96—121B Patrick Wadge 2/1F
2023 · 3 runs
18 Dec 23+19d Musselburgh tote.co.uk Two Turtle Doves Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m7½f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 4/11 hd 11-10 95—117A Derek Fox 3/1F
29 Nov 23+18d Kelso Join Racing Tv Now Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5f · Soft · 13 ran 2/13 7 11-9 95102C122A Derek Fox 20/1
11 Nov 23+623d Kelso Graeme Todd Memorial Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran F/11 — 11-10 95—— Derek Fox 10/1
2022 · 2 runs
26 Feb 22+23d Newcastle Think Smart At Vertem EBF Mares' 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 17 11-0 —115A95A Derek Fox 11/2
03 Feb 22 Kelso Jumping For Joy With Free RacingTV Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m6½f · Good · 5 ran 4/5 hd 10-13 —86C100B Derek Fox 5/1

Quick answers

How many races has So They Say won?
So They Say (GB) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2022 and 2024, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained So They Say?
So They Say (GB) was trained by Lucinda Russell on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 26 April 2024.
Who is So They Say's sire?
So They Say (GB) is by Malinas (GER) out of Feisty Lass (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.
What going does So They Say prefer?
So They Say (GB) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is So They Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 26 April 2024. That is also the highest on record.
What is So They Say's sire's record?
Malinas (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 3,957 runs since Apr 2010 (419 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are So They Say's siblings?
Out of Feisty Lass (IRE), So They Say (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from February 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.