So You Say (FR)
So You Say was a mare who won two of 22 starts, both in handicaps on the all-weather. She gained her first success at Chantilly in Mar 2023 over 1m2f – 1m4f on standard going and followed up at Deauville in Oct 2023 over 1m – 1m1f on standard going. All wins came on the AW where she had two wins from 19 runs. She finished 13 of 16 at Deauville in Jul 2024.
- 2–22Wins / Runs
- 9.1%Strike rate
- 4 (18.2%)Placed
- +21.70£1 level staken=22 at SP
- 0.87Fair A/E n=21 · 1.42 incl. margin
- 32dBetween runs (median)longest 261 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 4,160 runs since Apr 2017 (448 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 3.9% from 256. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 209. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 2.8% from 145.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 8 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 194 | 17 | 8.8% | +1.4 | — |
| Good | 545 | 29 | 5.3% | −2.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 586 | 56 | 9.6% | +2.2 | — |
| Soft | 697 | 34 | 4.9% | −2.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 256 | 10 | 3.9% | −3.5 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,874 | 161 | 8.6% | +1.2 | 2 from 19 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 209 | 25 | 12% | +4.6 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,615 | 129 | 8% | +0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,441 | 105 | 7.3% | −0.1 | 1 from 15 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 682 | 41 | 6% | −1.4 | 1 from 6 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 145 | 4 | 2.8% | −4.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 65 | 3 | 4.6% | −2.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2017 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Solitary Man (FR) (2 wins).
The wins came over 6½f–1m2½f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Solitary Man (FR) | 13 | 2 | 1m–1m1½f | — |
| Speak Now (FR) | 20 | 1 | 1m2½f | — |
| Si Senorita (FR) | 8 | 1 | 1m1½f | — |
| Slam Poet (FR) | 5 | 1 | 6½f | — |
| Shining Yellow (FR) | 8 | 1 | 7f | — |
| Courson (FR) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Cayssie Ma Star (FR) | 9 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 19 | 2 | 11% | +24.70 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Deauville (FR) | 10 | 1 | 10% | +22.00 |
| Chantilly (FR) | 9 | 1 | 11% | +2.70 |
| Saint-Cloud (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Angers (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 15 | 1 | 7% | +17.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 6 | 1 | 17% | +5.70 |
| 6f – 7f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Delphine Santiago | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Theo Bachelot | 5 | 1 | 20% | +6.70 |
| Thomas Trullier | 3 | 1 | 33% | +29.00 |
| Mickael Barzalona | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Benjamin Marie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ebbe Verhestraeten | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Eddy Hardouin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Guillaume Trolley De Prevaux | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Vincent Cheminaud | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Damien Gibello Sacco | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 16 | 1 | 6% | +16.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 6 | 1 | 17% | +5.70 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2023 | 9 | 2 | 22% | +34.70 |
| 2022 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2021 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2020 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has So You Say won?
- So You Say (FR) won 2 of 22 archived starts between 2020 and 2024, a strike rate of 9.1%. Placed 4 times in total (18.2% of starts).
- Who trained So You Say?
- So You Say (FR) was trained by Caroline Auvray on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 6 July 2024.
- Who is So You Say's sire?
- So You Say (FR) is by Dabirsim (FR) out of Snow Valley (FR), whose sire is Choisir.
- What going does So You Say prefer?
- So You Say (FR) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 2 wins from 19 starts (10.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is So You Say's sire's record?
- Dabirsim (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 4,160 runs since Apr 2017 (448 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 3.9% from 256. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12% from 209. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 2.8% from 145.
- Who are So You Say's siblings?
- Out of Snow Valley (FR), So You Say (FR) has 7 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Solitary Man (FR) (2). The wins came over 6½f–1m2½f. As at Nov 2026.