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Horse profile

Songe (FR)

7yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2011) · Last trainer Charlie Longsdon · Last owner Alan Halsall
by Hernando (FR) out of Sierra (FR) (Anabaa)
31 runs · 18 courses · from Mar 2007
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Nov 2011 — 5,457 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2011 6 wins · 5 courses Last raced off OR 135
KTB Profile

Songe (FR) is 6 from 31, including a Grade 2 win. The biggest win we hold: the Blue Square Champion Hurdle Trial at Haydock (Jan 2009). Hasn't won since Nov 2010. Last raced off 135, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 31 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 18lb off peak
Official rating135↓ 18lb off peak
135 122–153

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 138B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sandown, 6 Nov 2010 Official rating 135 at the last run, 5 Nov 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 21 figures · best 147A · median 121
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good9145A121—
Good to Soft7147A128—
Soft3126A118—
Good to Firm2110C109.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m13147A121—
2m1f – 2m4f8138B123.5—

Of 27 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (6).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 27 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Hernando (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 3,531 runs since Jan 2008 (273 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.5% from 120.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2229.1%−3—
Good to Firm4826212.9%+0.80 from 3
Good1,01712812.6%+0.53 from 11
Good to Soft5266011.4%−0.72 from 10
Soft6756910.2%−1.91 from 6
Heavy2613714.2%+2.10 from 1
Standard (AW)5487113%+0.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f500%−12.1—
6f – 7f12097.5%−4.6—
1m – 1m1f3703910.5%−1.61 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f85410011.7%−0.4—
1m5f – 2m1,05015214.5%+2.43 from 14
2m1f – 2m4f6467812.1%02 from 14
2m5f – 3m4004411%−1.10 from 1
Over 3m8678.1%−4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Sierra (FR) (Anabaa)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Seeyouinmydreams (GB) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Seeyouinmydreams (GB)).

Family form: Sierrascope (GB) finished 3rd of 9 at Listowel (IRE), 24 Sep 2026.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Seeyouinmydreams (GB)1762m–2m4fClass 4
Siberian Star (GB)5132m5f–3m1fClass 4
Sandy Cay (FR)4132m2f–2m3f—
Sierrascope (GB)20——
Bathwick Nero (GB)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 11 3 27% +4.50
Good to Soft 10 2 20% +12.00
Soft 6 1 17% −5.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 12 1 8% −4.00
Class 3 9 3 33% +9.50
Class 2 4 1 25% +7.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Huntingdon 5 2 40% +9.75
Sandown 4 1 25% −0.25
Cheltenham 4 0 0% −4.00
Aintree 3 0 0% −3.00
Auteuil (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 1 100% +7.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 1 100% +10.00
Longchamp (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 1 100% —

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 14 2 14% −6.50
1m5f – 2m 14 3 21% +16.00
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% −1.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Siddall 18 3 17% +12.00
Noel Fehily 2 1 50% +1.75
Richard Johnson 2 1 50% +1.75
Tom Scudamore 2 0 0% −2.00
Boris Chameraud 2 0 0% −2.00
Felix De Giles 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Brennan 1 0 0% −1.00
A P McCoy 1 0 0% −1.00
Maxime Guyon 1 0 0% −1.00
William Mongil 1 1 100% —

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 29 6 21% +9.50
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 5 0 0% −5.00
2010 7 2 29% +0.50
2009 7 1 14% +1.00
2008 8 2 25% +14.00
2007 4 1 25% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 17 3 18% +13.00
Chase 12 2 17% −4.50
Flat 2 1 50% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
05 Nov 11+34d Sandown Play Rainbow Riches At bluesq.com Handicap Chase Class 3 · 20f · Good To Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-10 135— Felix De Giles 6/1
02 Oct 11+157d Huntingdon Brampton Handicap Chase Class 3 · 20f · Good To Firm · 5 ran F/5 — 11-12 135— Noel Fehily 7/4F
28 Apr 11+44d Perth Crabbie's Alcoholic Ginger Beer Handicap Chase Class 2 · 20f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 16 11-12 138113C Paddy Brennan 8/1
15 Mar 11+59d Cheltenham Centenary Novices' Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 20.5f · Good · 20 ran PU/20 — 11-12 140— Tom Siddall 50/1
15 Jan 11+70d Kempton williamhill.com Lanzarote Hurdle (Handicap) Class 2 · 21f · Good To Soft · 19 ran F/19 — 10-12 140— Richard Johnson 12/1
06 Nov 10+34d Sandown Blue Square Handicap Chase Class 3 · 20f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 11-12 135138B Noel Fehily 11/4F
03 Oct 10+131d Huntingdon John And Sue Golden Wedding Handicap Chase Class 3 · 20f · Good · 9 ran 1/9 11-4 122131A Richard Johnson 11/4F
25 May 10+20d Huntingdon Vindis St Ives Novices' Chase Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Firm · 3 ran 2/3 9 10-12 122110C Tom Scudamore 2/1
05 May 10+27d Huntingdon Turftv Novices' Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 9 ran UR/9 — 10-12 —— Tom Scudamore 3/1J
08 Apr 10+20d Aintree Silver Cross Handicap Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 20f · Good · 22 ran 12/22 1¼ 10-11 135111A Tom Siddall 33/1
19 Mar 10+34d Cheltenham Vincent O'Brien County Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 17f · Good · 28 ran 10/28 5 11-0 140131A Tom Siddall 50/1
13 Feb 10+63d Newbury totesport Trophy Hurdle (Grade 3 handicap) Class 1 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 23 ran 11/23 4½ 10-13 142125A Tom Siddall 25/1
12 Dec 09+11d Cheltenham boylesports.com International Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 17f · Soft · 7 ran 7/7 1¾ 11-8 142118C Tom Siddall 100/1
01 Dec 09+40d Hereford Bell Inn At Tillington Beginners' Chase Class 3 · 16f · Soft · 7 ran 2/7 13 11-0 —126A Tom Siddall 9/4
22 Oct 09+180d Carlisle Jonnie Fenwicke-clennell Memorial Novices' Chase Class 3 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 2¾ 11-2 —116A Tom Siddall 7/2
25 Apr 09+21d Sandown Bet365.com Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 16f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 8/8 4½ 11-8 153109A Tom Siddall 6/1
04 Apr 09+49d Aintree John Smith's Aintree Hurdle Grade 1 Class 1 · 20f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 13/16 1 11-7 153119C Tom Siddall 150/1
14 Feb 09+28d Wincanton Bathwick Tyres Kingwell Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 15.5f · Soft · 9 ran 9/9 3¼ 11-11 153112C Tom Siddall 6/1
17 Jan 09+28d Haydock Blue Square Champion Hurdle Trial (Grade 2) Class 1 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 11-6 143145A Tom Siddall 7/1
20 Dec 08+31d Ascot Ladbroke (Listed Handicap Hurdle) Class 1 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 21 ran 3/21 ½ 11-2 137147A Tom Siddall 66/1
19 Nov 08+11d Warwick Highflyer Bloodstock Four Years Old Novices' Chase Class 3 · 16f · Soft · 4 ran PU/4 — 10-10 —— A P McCoy 9/4
08 Nov 08+28d Sandown Bulmers Original Beginners' Chase Class 3 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 3/8 2½ 10-7 —113B Tom Siddall 9/2
11 Oct 08+190d Chepstow Realtime Radio at williamhill.co.uk Hurdle (Limited Handicap) Class 2 · 16f · Good · 12 ran 6/12 6 11-0 139121A Tom Siddall 8/1
04 Apr 08+21d Aintree Littlewoods Direct Imagine Appeal Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 16.5f · Good · 14 ran 8/14 24 10-13 139109C Tom Siddall 33/1
14 Mar 08+36d Cheltenham JCB Triumph Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 17f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 4/14 4½ 11-0 137128A Tom Siddall 25/1
07 Feb 08+13d Huntingdon Betfred Chatteris Fen Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class 2 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 11-8 137135A Tom Siddall 10/1
25 Jan 08+107d Doncaster Skybet Press Red To Bet On ATR Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 1/18 10-12 153129A Tom Siddall 10/1
10 Oct 07+21d Auteuil (FR) Prix Piomares (Hurdle) (Colts & Geldings) 18f · Heavy · 5 ran 5/5 6 10-1 —— Boris Chameraud 6/1
19 Sep 07+139d Auteuil (FR) Prix Finot (Listed Hurdle) (Div I) (Unraced C&G) 18f · Very Soft · 5 ran 2/5 8 10-1 —— Boris Chameraud 58/10
03 May 07+41d Longchamp (FR) Prix du Champ du Mars (Colts & Geldings) 9f · Good · 5 ran 5/5 1½ 9-0 —— Maxime Guyon 11/2
23 Mar 07 Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Sica Boy (Unraced Colts & Geldings) 8f · Very Soft · 10 ran 1/10 9-2 —— William Mongil —

Quick answers

How many races has Songe (FR) won?
Songe (FR) won 6 of 31 archived starts between 2007 and 2011, a strike rate of 19.4%. Placed 10 times in total (32.3% of starts).
Who trained Songe (FR)?
Songe (FR) was trained by Charlie Longsdon on the most recent run on record, at Sandown on 5 November 2011.
Who is Songe (FR)'s sire?
Songe (FR) is by Hernando (FR) out of Sierra (FR), whose sire is Anabaa.
What going does Songe (FR) prefer?
Songe (FR) has the best record on good going: 3 wins from 11 starts (27.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Songe (FR)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 135, from the run on 5 November 2011. The highest on record is 153.
What is Songe (FR)'s sire's record?
Hernando (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 3,531 runs since Jan 2008 (273 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.5% from 120.
Who are Songe (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Sierra (FR), Songe (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Seeyouinmydreams (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Seeyouinmydreams (GB)). The wins came over 2m–3m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.