Stubborn Logic (IRE)
Stubborn Logic (IRE) is 1 from 13, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Jun 2019. Last raced off a career-high mark of 104.
- 1–13Wins / Runs
- 7.7%Strike rate
- 4 (30.8%)Placed
- −10.50£1 level staken=13 at SP
- 0.56Fair A/E n=13 · 0.45 incl. margin
- 104Highest OR
- 69dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 123
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 132C | 101 | — |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 123B | 115 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 132C | 123 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4 | 111C | 101.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 102B | 80 | — |
Of 13 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 13 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (533 horses).
Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 17.7% from 192.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 50 | 6 | 12% | +1.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 646 | 79 | 12.2% | +1.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 2,074 | 240 | 11.6% | +1.1 | 1 from 9 |
| Good to Soft | 1,139 | 111 | 9.7% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 1,712 | 154 | 9% | −1.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 649 | 65 | 10% | −0.5 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,220 | 132 | 10.8% | +0.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 192 | 34 | 17.7% | +7.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 691 | 60 | 8.7% | −1.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,214 | 125 | 10.3% | −0.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,248 | 127 | 10.2% | −0.3 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,812 | 182 | 10% | −0.5 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,552 | 171 | 11% | +0.5 | 1 from 5 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 646 | 66 | 10.2% | −0.3 | 0 from 5 |
| Over 3m | 136 | 22 | 16.2% | +5.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Bolsover Bill (IRE) (7 wins).
The wins came over 2m–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (By The Boardwalk (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bolsover Bill (IRE) | 37 | 7 | 2m–3m | Class 4 |
| By The Boardwalk (IRE) | 34 | 5 | 2m4f–3m½f | Class 3 |
| Blarney Kestrel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Potters Vision (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Queen Medbh (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 9 | 1 | 11% | −6.50 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 5 | 1 | 20% | −2.50 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wincanton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tramore | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Stratford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fakenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 1 | 20% | −2.50 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tom Scudamore | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Charlie Hammond | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Rachael Blackmore | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Donal McInerney | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| David Noonan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sam Twiston-Davies | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Mr M J O'Hare | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 10 | 1 | 10% | −7.50 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie + blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2019 | 4 | 1 | 25% | −1.50 |
| 2018 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 12 | 1 | 8% | −9.50 |
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 08 Nov 20+11d | Stratford | Alveston Handicap Hurdle | 4/15 | 5½ | 11-11 | 104 | 111C | 118A | David Noonan | 18/1 |
| 28 Oct 20+13d | Fakenham | Greene King IPA Handicap Hurdle | 7/10 | 19 | 11-8 | 104 | 100C | 87C | Tom Scudamore | 11/2 |
| 15 Oct 20+25d | Wincanton | Every Race Live On Racing TV Handicap Hurdle | 3/11 | ½ | 11-5 | 102 | 123B | 120A | Tom Scudamore | 8/1 |
| 20 Sep 20+471d | Plumpton | Thank You Nhs & Key Workers Handicap Hurdle | 7/12 | 11 | 11-12 | 103 | 107B | 107A | Tom Scudamore | 11/2 |
| 2019 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 07 Jun 19+12d | Market Rasen | Elite Windows Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 1/12 | 11-11 | 99 | 96A | 125A | Sam Twiston-Davies | 6/4F | |
| 26 May 19+20d | Fontwell | goodwinracing.co.uk Handicap Hurdle | 2/13 | 1½ | 11-8 | 99 | 119C | 123A | Charlie Hammond | 6/4F |
| 06 May 19+22d | Warwick | Agetur UK Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle | F/11 | — | 11-8 | 99 | — | — | Charlie Hammond | 5/4F |
| 14 Apr 19+178d | Wincanton | Cadbury Business Park Handicap Hurdle | 9/14 | 1 | 9-13 | 101 | 132C | 82C | Charlie Hammond | 7/2F |
| 2018 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 18 Oct 18+14d | Tramore | Waterford & Tramore Racecourse Supporters Club Maiden Hurdle | 4/10 | 8½ | 11-2 | — | 131B | 106A | Rachael Blackmore | 10/1 |
| 04 Oct 18+23d | Clonmel | Fethard Maiden Hurdle | 2/9 | 4¼ | 11-2 | — | 77A | 119A | Rachael Blackmore | 10/1 |
| 11 Sep 18+26d | Listowel | Connolly's RED MILLS Irish EBF Auction Maiden Hurdle | 6/14 | 18 | 11-1 | — | 76C | 88C | Donal McInerney | 33/1 |
| 16 Aug 18+9d | Tramore | Pat Halley Architects Maiden Hurdle | 5/14 | 3 | 10-13 | — | 80B | 105A | Donal McInerney | 20/1 |
| 07 Aug 18 | Roscommon | Ireland's Hidden Heartlands Flat Race | 10/18 | 1½ | 11-4 | — | 102B | 96A | Mr M J O'Hare | 66/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Stubborn Logic won?
- Stubborn Logic (IRE) won 1 of 13 archived starts between 2018 and 2020, a strike rate of 7.7%. Placed 4 times in total (30.8% of starts).
- Who trained Stubborn Logic?
- Stubborn Logic (IRE) was trained by David Pipe on the most recent run on record, at Stratford on 8 November 2020.
- Who is Stubborn Logic's sire?
- Stubborn Logic (IRE) is by Dylan Thomas (IRE) out of Peripheral Vision (IRE), whose sire is Saddlers' Hall.
- What going does Stubborn Logic prefer?
- Stubborn Logic (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 9 starts (11.1%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Stubborn Logic's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 104, from the run on 8 November 2020. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Stubborn Logic's sire's record?
- Dylan Thomas (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 7,491 runs since Jan 2008 (533 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 17.7% from 192.
- Who are Stubborn Logic's siblings?
- Out of Peripheral Vision (IRE), Stubborn Logic (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Bolsover Bill (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Class 3 (By The Boardwalk (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m½f. As at Oct 2026.