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Horse profile

Thats Confidential (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, May 2009) · Last trainer Peter Bowen · Last owner The Unconventionals Racing Syndicate
by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of New Legislation (IRE) (Dominion Royale)
16 runs · 14 courses · from Jan 2007
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 May 2009 — 6,391 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2009 · 3rd of 8 2 wins · Sedgefield & Cartmel Last raced off OR 110
KTB Profile

Thats Confidential (IRE) is 2 from 16, both wins coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Sep 2008. Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 4 on softer). Each win came on a first visit to the course.

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster All wins at Class 4
Official rating110↓ 4lb off peak
110 105–114

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 119A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wetherby, 7 May 2009 Official rating 110 at the last run, 7 May 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 15 figures · best 123A · median 113
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good8118A101—
Good to Firm4123A119.5—
Soft2117C115—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f6123A116—
2m5f – 3m5118A98—
1m5f – 2m4117C108.5—

Of 16 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm59610.2%+2.5—
Good to Firm482408.3%+0.61 from 4
Good1,3511148.4%+0.71 from 8
Good to Soft693547.8%+0.10 from 1
Soft1,317916.9%−0.80 from 3
Heavy940707.4%−0.3—
Standard (AW)1915.3%−2.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−7.7—
1m – 1m1f200%−7.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2414.2%−3.5—
1m5f – 2m1,059777.3%−0.40 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f1,7231136.6%−1.11 from 6
2m5f – 3m1,5971469.1%+1.41 from 6
Over 3m455398.6%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
New Legislation (IRE) (Dominion Royale)

4 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Keelaghan (IRE) (8 wins).

The wins came over 1m3f–2m6f; the highest grade won is Class 1 (Keelaghan (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Keelaghan (IRE)4481m3f–2m1fClass 1
Oscar Hoof (IRE)1641m6f–2m3½fClass 4
Legal Exit (IRE)1122m–2m4f—
Lisabbey Lord (IRE)1112m6f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 8 1 13% −5.00
Good to Firm 4 1 25% +1.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 10 2 20% −2.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newton Abbot 2 0 0% −2.00
Wincanton 2 0 0% −2.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 1 100% +4.00
Cartmel 1 1 100% +2.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Towcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 6 1 17% −1.00
2m5f – 3m 6 1 17% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Bernie Wharfe 5 2 40% +3.00
Seamus Durack 2 0 0% −2.00
Aidan Coleman 2 0 0% −2.00
Jason Maguire 2 0 0% −2.00
A P McCoy 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Moloney 1 0 0% −1.00
Sam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Tinkler 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 0 0% −8.00
Blinkers 6 2 33% +2.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2008 10 2 20% −2.00
2007 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 12 2 17% −4.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2009 · 2 runs
07 May 09+26d Wetherby 'party In The Paddock' - 4th June Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 3/8 7 11-12 110119A Seamus Durack 5/1
11 Apr 09+195d Newton Abbot South West Racing Club Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5½f · Good · 11 ran 10/11 15 11-6 11490C Bernie Wharfe 10/1
2008 · 10 runs
28 Sep 08+7d Market Rasen Showsec International Ltd Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m6f · Good · 15 ran 7/15 1 10-0 11495A Bernie Wharfe 17/2
21 Sep 08+19d Uttoxeter JCB NSPCC October 5th Family Day Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 3/13 3¾ 11-12 114120A A P McCoy 7/2
02 Sep 08+10d Sedgefield New Season Approaching For Newcastle Eagles Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 1/12 11-0 114123A Bernie Wharfe 4/1
23 Aug 08+4d Cartmel Grant Thornton UK Llp Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6f · Good · 9 ran 1/9 10-9 114118A Bernie Wharfe 2/1F
19 Aug 08+72d Newton Abbot South West Racing Club 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m2½f · Soft · 7 ran 2/7 4½ 10-7 114113B Bernie Wharfe 9/4
08 Jun 08+19d Worcester Gleave Partnership Family Day Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good · 12 ran 7/12 4½ 11-7 11098C Robert Thornton 15/2
20 May 08+30d Towcester Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 9/11 10 11-6 11093A Aidan Coleman 4/1J
20 Apr 08+55d Wincanton Bathwick Tyres Dorchester Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5½f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 2 11-2 105113A Aidan Coleman 11/1
25 Feb 08+44d Hereford Pertemps Spark Of Brilliance 'National Hunt' Mdn Hdl (Div 1) Class 4 · 2m · Good · 16 ran 10/16 2 11-2 10591C Seamus Durack 4/1
12 Jan 08+29d Kempton intercasino.co.uk Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 2m5f · Soft · 12 ran F/12 — 11-4 —— Jason Maguire 8/1
2007 · 4 runs
14 Dec 07+270d Cheltenham E.B.F./Boylesports.com 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 2 · 2m1f · Good · 12 ran 8/12 nk 11-0 —109C Jason Maguire 66/1
19 Mar 07+44d Wincanton Best In The West Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 1m7½f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 ½ 11-3 —104C Paul Moloney 9/2
03 Feb 07+22d Stratford Colin Dean's Day At The Races Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 4/16 nk 10-13 —113C Sam Jones 7/2
12 Jan 07 Huntingdon WBX.com Committed To NH Racing Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 18 ran 3/18 7 11-4 —117C Andrew Tinkler 5/2F

Quick answers

How many races has Thats Confidential won?
Thats Confidential (IRE) won 2 of 16 archived starts between 2007 and 2009, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 7 times in total (43.8% of starts).
Who trained Thats Confidential?
Thats Confidential (IRE) was trained by Peter Bowen on the most recent run on record, at Wetherby on 7 May 2009.
Who is Thats Confidential's sire?
Thats Confidential (IRE) is by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of New Legislation (IRE), whose sire is Dominion Royale.
What going does Thats Confidential prefer?
Thats Confidential (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Thats Confidential's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 110, from the run on 7 May 2009. The highest on record is 114.
What is Thats Confidential's sire's record?
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.7% of 4,861 runs since Jan 2008 (460 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Thats Confidential's siblings?
Out of New Legislation (IRE), Thats Confidential (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Keelaghan (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Class 1 (Keelaghan (IRE)). The wins came over 1m3f–2m6f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.