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Horse profile

That's For Sure (GB)

11yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2011) · Last trainer Debra Hamer · Last owner Mrs D A Hamer
by Forzando (GB) out of Sure Flyer (IRE) (Sure Blade)
12 runs · 8 courses · from Aug 2005
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Feb 2011 — 5,756 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2011 · 11th of 15 Won at Towcester Last raced off OR 78
KTB Profile

That's For Sure (GB) is 1 from 12, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Feb 2009. Last raced off 78, 8lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 5 OR ↓ 8lb off peak
Official rating78↓ 8lb off peak
78 73–86

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Taunton, 23 Feb 2010 Official rating 78 at the last run, 1 Feb 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 112A · median 83.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft598A84—
Good283A75.5—
Good to Soft1———
Heavy1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m585C84—
2m1f – 2m4f498A82.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 12 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Forzando (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 3.7% of 481 runs since Jan 2008 (49 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1200%−3.7—
Good to Firm9411.1%−2.60 from 2
Good8933.4%−0.30 from 2
Good to Soft5223.8%+0.10 from 2
Soft3812.6%−1.10 from 5
Heavy9222.2%+18.51 from 1
Standard (AW)18794.8%+1.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f9444.3%+0.6—
6f – 7f21883.7%0—
1m – 1m1f7645.3%+1.6—
1m2f – 1m4f1400%−3.7—
1m5f – 2m3213.1%−0.61 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f3013.3%−0.40 from 6
2m5f – 3m1300%−3.70 from 5
Over 3m400%−3.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Sure Flyer (IRE) (Sure Blade)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Ruby's Dream (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Ruby's Dream (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ruby's Dream (GB)3625f–6fClass 5
Rascasse (GB)120——
Justupyourstreet (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 1 100% +3.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 7 1 14% −2.50
Class 4 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Taunton 2 0 0% −2.00
Towcester 2 1 50% +2.50
Fontwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Worcester 2 0 0% −2.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Folkestone 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
2m5f – 3m 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 1 1 100% +3.50

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Lee Evans 4 1 25% +0.50
Christian Williams 4 0 0% −4.00
Aodhagan Conlon 1 0 0% −1.00
Donal Devereux 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Tom David 1 0 0% −1.00
James White 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 4 1 25% +0.50
None 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 1 0 0% −1.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00
2009 4 1 25% +0.50
2008 3 0 0% −3.00
2005 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 1 9% −6.50
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2011 · 1 run
01 Feb 11+343d Taunton Timeform Betfair Racing Club Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Good To Soft · 15 ran 11/15 nk 10-11 7876A Aodhagan Conlon 10/1
2010 · 2 runs
23 Feb 10+37d Taunton Butterworth Jones Chartered Accountants Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Soft · 15 ran 3/15 26 10-11 8084C Donal Devereux 14/1
17 Jan 10+298d Ffos Las Bet totepool At totesport.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Soft · 15 ran 8/15 2 9-7 8381A Mr Tom David 50/1
2009 · 4 runs
25 Mar 09+21d Towcester Ladbrokes Odds-on Loyalty Card Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good · 17 ran 12/17 4 10-5 8668C Lee Evans 12/1
04 Mar 09+10d Fontwell Betfair Betting As It Should Be Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Good To Soft · 9 ran UR/9 — 9-8 73— Lee Evans 7/2F
22 Feb 09+40d Towcester Gg.com Tipzone Selling Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m · Heavy · 15 ran 1/15 9-13 73112A Lee Evans 7/2F
13 Jan 09+223d Folkestone Pertemps People Development Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m1½f · Soft · 15 ran 4/15 3¾ 10-7 7482A Lee Evans 13/2
2008 · 3 runs
04 Jun 08+88d Fontwell Faith And Football Charity Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m3f · Good · 15 ran 4/15 1½ 10-10 7483A Christian Williams 8/1
08 Mar 08+31d Chepstow WBX.COM No Commission At Cheltenham Selling Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m3½f · Soft · 16 ran 2/16 11 10-7 7498A James White 12/1
06 Feb 08+897d Ludlow Ludlow Sparky Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Soft · 15 ran 9/15 10 10-11 7485C Christian Williams 100/1
2005 · 2 runs
23 Aug 05+6d Worcester Betfredcasino.com Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Firm · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-12 —— Christian Williams 3/1
17 Aug 05 Worcester Worcester Festival Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 30 10-12 —84C Christian Williams 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has That's For Sure won?
That's For Sure (GB) won 1 of 12 archived starts between 2005 and 2011, a strike rate of 8.3%. Placed 3 times in total (25% of starts).
Who trained That's For Sure?
That's For Sure (GB) was trained by Debra Hamer on the most recent run on record, at Taunton on 1 February 2011.
Who is That's For Sure's sire?
That's For Sure (GB) is by Forzando (GB) out of Sure Flyer (IRE), whose sire is Sure Blade.
What is That's For Sure's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 78, from the run on 1 February 2011. The highest on record is 86.
What is That's For Sure's sire's record?
Forzando (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 3.7% of 481 runs since Jan 2008 (49 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are That's For Sure's siblings?
Out of Sure Flyer (IRE), That's For Sure (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Ruby's Dream (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Ruby's Dream (GB)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from August 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.