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Horse profile

Thatsallimsaying (IRE)

3yo filly (at last run, May 2016) · Last trainer David Evans · Last owner John Abbey Mike Nolan
by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Model Looks (IRE) (Majestic Missile)
12 runs · 11 courses · from Jun 2015
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 May 2016 — 3,821 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2016 · 10th of 11 Won at Chepstow Last raced off OR 77
KTB Profile

Thatsallimsaying (IRE) is 1 from 12, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Jul 2015. The win came on turf — 0 from 4 on the all-weather. Last raced off 77, 23lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Win at Class 5 OR ↓ 23lb off peak

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Thatsallimsaying (IRE) has 4 produce in the archive, 4 winners — most wins Project Dante (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Project Dante (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Project Dante (GB)1625fClass 3
Silent Words (GB)1115fClass 5
Lauded (GB)616fClass 5
Boardroom (GB)715fClass 4
Official rating77↓ 23lb off peak
77 77–100

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 69B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 22 Mar 2016 Official rating 77 at the last run, 5 May 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 98A · median 57
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)469B57—
Good251C46.5—
Soft294A74—
Good to Firm279A75—
Heavy1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Under 6f794A69—
6f – 7f598A54—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,927 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm921415.2%+6.1—
Good to Firm2,47725610.3%+1.20 from 2
Good3,1672648.3%−0.80 from 2
Good to Soft1,3401098.1%−11 from 1
Soft1,7171367.9%−1.20 from 2
Heavy4655010.8%+1.70 from 1
Standard (AW)5,6695349.4%+0.30 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4,43350711.4%+2.30 from 7
6f – 7f7,6246438.4%−0.71 from 5
1m – 1m1f2,0411587.7%−1.4—
1m2f – 1m4f580447.6%−1.5—
1m5f – 2m17095.3%−3.8—
2m1f – 2m4f6623%−6.1—
2m5f – 3m1200%−9.1—
Over 3m100%−9.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Model Looks (IRE) (Majestic Missile)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them So Smart (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 5f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (So Smart (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
So Smart (IRE)7565fClass 4
Dandy Style (IRE)1135f–7fClass 4
Wayside Lady (IRE)210——
Anshika (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 1 100% +5.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 1 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 2 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 2 1 50% +4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chester 2 0 0% −2.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Chelmsford (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 1 100% +5.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 7 0 0% −7.00
6f – 7f 5 1 20% +1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
J F Egan 5 0 0% −5.00
Cathy Gannon 3 1 33% +3.00
Josephine Gordon 2 0 0% −2.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00
Declan Bates 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 6 0 0% −6.00
2015 6 1 17% +0.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
05 May 16+27d Chester Perfection Secrets Handicap Class 3 · 6f · Good · 11 ran 10/11 1¼ 8-9 7742A Cathy Gannon 25/1
08 Apr 16+17d Leicester Loddington Conditions Stakes (Plus 10) Class 3 · 6f · Heavy · 4 ran 4/4 17 8-11 8036C J F Egan 20/1
22 Mar 16+28d Southwell (AW) Daily Unibet Early Prices From 9am Handicap Class 4 · 5f · Standard · 6 ran 4/6 1½ 9-6 8469B J F Egan 28/1
23 Feb 16+16d Wolverhampton (AW) Download The New Unibet Racing App Handicap Class 4 · 5f · Standard · 7 ran 6/7 2¼ 9-4 8757A Josephine Gordon 40/1
07 Feb 16+21d Chelmsford (AW) totequadpot Conditions Stakes (Plus 10 Race) (All-Weather Championship Fast-Track Qualifier) Class 2 · 5f · Standard · 4 ran 4/4 8 8-12 9041B Josephine Gordon 33/1
17 Jan 16+121d Kempton (AW) Watch Racing UK On 3 Devices Conditions Stakes (All-Weather Championship Fast-Track Qualifier) Class 2 · 6f · Standard · 4 ran 3/4 5 8-11 9557B Cathy Gannon 20/1
18 Sep 15+15d Ayr Shadwell Stud/EBF Stallions Harry Rosebery Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 5f · Good · 15 ran 14/15 1¾ 8-12 10051C J F Egan 33/1
03 Sep 15+20d Salisbury Country Gentlemen's Association Dick Poole Fillies' Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 6f · Soft · 7 ran 7/7 9 9-0 10054C J F Egan 16/1
14 Aug 15+21d Newbury Bathwick Tyres St Hugh's Stakes (Fillies' Listed) Class 1 · 5f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 ½ 9-0 8594A Adam Kirby 16/1
24 Jul 15+13d Chepstow Truvape Maiden Auction Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) Class 5 · 6f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 9-0 —98A Cathy Gannon 5/1
11 Jul 15+21d Chester Bet On UK Racing At corbettsports.com/ EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Plus10) Class 4 · 5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 2/7 1¼ 9-0 —79A J F Egan 5/1
20 Jun 15 Haydock Betfred Tv Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 4/10 3¼ 8-11 —71A Declan Bates 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thatsallimsaying (IRE) won?
Thatsallimsaying (IRE) won 1 of 12 archived starts between 2015 and 2016, a strike rate of 8.3%. Placed 3 times in total (25% of starts).
Who trained Thatsallimsaying (IRE)?
Thatsallimsaying (IRE) was trained by David Evans on the most recent run on record, at Chester on 5 May 2016.
Who is Thatsallimsaying (IRE)'s sire?
Thatsallimsaying (IRE) is by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Model Looks (IRE), whose sire is Majestic Missile.
What is Thatsallimsaying (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 77, from the run on 5 May 2016. The highest on record is 100.
What is Thatsallimsaying (IRE)'s sire's record?
Dandy Man (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,927 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.
Who are Thatsallimsaying (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Model Looks (IRE), Thatsallimsaying (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: So Smart (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 4 (So Smart (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–7f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Thatsallimsaying (IRE) produced winners?
As a dam, Thatsallimsaying (IRE) has 4 produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Project Dante (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Project Dante (GB)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.