The Boys Dont Know (IRE)
The Boys Dont Know (IRE) is 1 from 17. Hasn't won since Nov 2012.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, The Boys Dont Know (IRE) has 4 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins I'd Like To Know (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m½f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (I'd Like To Know (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| I'd Like To Know (IRE) | 10 | 3 | 2m½f–2m4f | Class 2 |
| Purple Fountain (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Fortunes Dawn (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Parlour Of Dreams (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
- 1–17Wins / Runs
- 5.9%Strike rate
- 3 (17.6%)Placed
- −12.67£1 level staken=17 at SP
- 0.91Fair A/E n=17 · 0.67 incl. margin
- 102Highest OR
- 27dBetween runs (median)longest 142 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 38 | 0 | 0% | −11.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 522 | 50 | 9.6% | −2.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 4,057 | 443 | 10.9% | −1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 2,935 | 354 | 12.1% | +0.2 | — |
| Soft | 5,876 | 751 | 12.8% | +0.9 | 1 from 6 |
| Heavy | 3,817 | 449 | 11.8% | −0.1 | 0 from 8 |
| Standard (AW) | 42 | 2 | 4.8% | −7.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −11.9 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 25 | 1 | 4% | −7.9 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4,486 | 548 | 12.2% | +0.3 | 1 from 7 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6,082 | 724 | 11.9% | 0 | 0 from 9 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5,260 | 623 | 11.8% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 1,432 | 153 | 10.7% | −1.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Warden Hill (IRE) (6 wins).
The wins came over 1m7½f–3m2f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (The Vicar (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Warden Hill (IRE) | 21 | 6 | 2m–3m2f | Class 3 |
| The Vicar (IRE) | 22 | 2 | 2m3f–2m4½f | Class 2 |
| Seacon Beg (IRE) | 17 | 2 | 2m½f–2m2½f | Class 5 |
| Itsnonofurbusiness (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 2m7f | Class 4 |
| Harrowman (IRE) | 2 | 1 | 1m7½f | Class 6 |
| Tomjackwilliam (IRE) | 12 | 1 | 2m5f | — |
| All Shell (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Soft | 6 | 1 | 17% | −1.67 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cork | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Limerick | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Punchestown | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Thurles | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.33 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 7 | 1 | 14% | −2.67 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brian Hayes | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Mark Enright | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| B J Cooper | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.33 |
| Kevin Sexton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Davy Condon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Phillip Enright | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| A P Heskin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr D M Spillane | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2012 | 9 | 1 | 11% | −4.67 |
| 2011 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 14 | 1 | 7% | −9.67 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has The Boys Dont Know won?
- The Boys Dont Know (IRE) won 1 of 17 archived starts between 2011 and 2013, a strike rate of 5.9%. Placed 3 times in total (17.6% of starts).
- Who trained The Boys Dont Know?
- The Boys Dont Know (IRE) was trained by Arthur Goulding on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 12 July 2013.
- Who is The Boys Dont Know's sire?
- The Boys Dont Know (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Moon Storm (IRE), whose sire is Strong Gale.
- What going does The Boys Dont Know prefer?
- The Boys Dont Know (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is The Boys Dont Know's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 12 July 2013. The highest on record is 102.
- What is The Boys Dont Know's sire's record?
- Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,287 runs since Jan 2008 (1,595 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are The Boys Dont Know's siblings?
- Out of Moon Storm (IRE), The Boys Dont Know (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Warden Hill (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (The Vicar (IRE)). The wins came over 1m7½f–3m2f. As at Nov 2026.
- Has The Boys Dont Know produced winners?
- As a dam, The Boys Dont Know (IRE) has 4 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: I'd Like To Know (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (I'd Like To Know (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–2m4f. As at Nov 2026.