The Thorny Rose (GB)
The Thorny Rose (GB) is yet to win from 8 starts. Last raced off 49, 10lb below the career-high mark.
- 0–8Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −8.00£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=8 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 59Highest OR
- 27dBetween runs (median)
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 71
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 71A | 65 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 71B | 41.5 | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Heavy | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 7 | 103C | 65 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 1,872 runs since Apr 2016 (109 horses).
Weakest on good going: 7.7% from 260. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 14.4% from 180.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 34 | 7 | 20.6% | +9.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 304 | 31 | 10.2% | −0.6 | 0 from 3 |
| Good | 260 | 20 | 7.7% | −3.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 160 | 18 | 11.3% | +0.5 | — |
| Soft | 157 | 16 | 10.2% | −0.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 45 | 6 | 13.3% | +2.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 912 | 105 | 11.5% | +0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 206 | 29 | 14.1% | +3.3 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 737 | 74 | 10% | −0.8 | 0 from 7 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 403 | 35 | 8.7% | −2.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 303 | 38 | 12.5% | +1.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 180 | 26 | 14.4% | +3.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 38 | 1 | 2.6% | −8.2 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −10.8 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −10.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2016 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Desperados Destiny (GB) (1 win).
The wins came over 6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Desperados Destiny (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Desperados Destiny (GB) | 8 | 1 | 6f | Class 5 |
| Louis The Warrior (GB) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Doncaster | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thirsk | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Redcar | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pontefract | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Mullen | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Paula Muir | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Tom Eaves | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 · 8 runs | ||||||||||
| 16 Oct 19+27d | Southwell (AW) | Visit Attheraces.com Handicap | 14/14 | 6 | 8-8 | 49 | 12C | 33C | Andrew Mullen | 25/1 |
| 19 Sep 19+41d | Southwell (AW) | Hall-Fast Industrial Supplies Ltd Handicap | 6/13 | ½ | 8-10 | 51 | 71B | 67A | Andrew Mullen | 20/1 |
| 09 Aug 19+42d | Thirsk | Peter Bell Memorial Handicap | 5/15 | ½ | 8-13 | 52 | 103C | 68A | Tom Eaves | 16/1 |
| 28 Jun 19+28d | Doncaster | Ellgia Recycling Zero To Landfill Handicap | 16/17 | ½ | 9-4 | 57 | 58C | 34C | Andrew Mullen | 40/1 |
| 31 May 19+13d | Carlisle | Longtown Handicap | 9/11 | 3¼ | 8-10 | 59 | 46C | 35C | Paula Muir | 25/1 |
| 18 May 19+16d | Doncaster | Lexus Sheffield Novice Stakes | 10/12 | ½ | 8-2 | — | 65A | 31A | Paula Muir | 40/1 |
| 02 May 19+17d | Redcar | Follow racingtv On Twitter Fillies' Novice Stakes | 5/12 | hd | 8-9 | — | 71A | 65A | Paula Muir | 100/1 |
| 15 Apr 19 | Pontefract | Thanks And Happy Retirement Richard Pemberton Fillies' Novice Stakes | 13/14 | 1¼ | 8-11 | — | 6C | 26C | Tom Eaves | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has The Thorny Rose won?
- The Thorny Rose (GB) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts in 2019.
- Who trained The Thorny Rose?
- The Thorny Rose (GB) was trained by Michael Dods on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 16 October 2019.
- Who is The Thorny Rose's sire?
- The Thorny Rose (GB) is by Delegator (GB) out of Muara (GB), whose sire is Wolfhound.
- What is The Thorny Rose's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 49, from the run on 16 October 2019. The highest on record is 59.
- What is The Thorny Rose's sire's record?
- Delegator (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 1,872 runs since Apr 2016 (109 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good going: 7.7% from 260. Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 14.4% from 180.
- Who are The Thorny Rose's siblings?
- Out of Muara (GB), The Thorny Rose (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Desperados Destiny (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Desperados Destiny (GB)). The wins came over 6f. As at Nov 2026.