The Turtle Said (GB)
The Turtle Said won two of 13 starts over hurdles, both in handicaps over 2m1f – 2m4f on good ground at Worcester and Uttoxeter in Jul and Aug 2022. He has not won since Aug 2022. All three starts at Wincanton and both runs over 2m5f – 3m ended in defeat. Aged 7 at his last run in Jul 2024, he finished 11 of 14 at Uttoxeter off an official rating of 105.
- 2–13Wins / Runs
- 15.4%Strike rate
- 5 (38.5%)Placed
- +8.00£1 level staken=13 at SP
- 1.44Fair A/E n=13 · 1.23 incl. margin
- 112Highest OR
- 112dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 124
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 7 | 118A | 105 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 80C | 64 | — |
| Soft | 2 | 124A | 114.5 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 124A | 109 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 117B | 86.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 105C | 87 | — |
Of 13 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 13 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 4,217 runs since Jan 2008 (410 horses).
Weakest on standard (aw) going: 6.8% from 1,095.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 23 | 4 | 17.4% | +7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 402 | 34 | 8.5% | −1.9 | — |
| Good | 940 | 120 | 12.8% | +2.4 | 2 from 9 |
| Good to Soft | 562 | 70 | 12.5% | +2.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 845 | 92 | 10.9% | +0.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 350 | 46 | 13.1% | +2.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,095 | 74 | 6.8% | −3.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 31 | 3 | 9.7% | −0.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 402 | 30 | 7.5% | −2.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 802 | 85 | 10.6% | +0.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,511 | 142 | 9.4% | −1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 900 | 107 | 11.9% | +1.5 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 431 | 57 | 13.2% | +2.8 | 2 from 5 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 125 | 15 | 12% | +1.6 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −3.7 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Gosbeck (GB) (2 wins).
The wins came over 1m2f–1m6f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Gosbeck (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gosbeck (GB) | 13 | 2 | 1m2f–1m6f | Class 3 |
| Hallbeck (GB) | 14 | 1 | 1m4f | Class 6 |
| Battle Lines (GB) | 9 | 0 | — | — |
| Gordon Flash (GB) | 15 | 0 | — | — |
| Harly Forest (GB) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Suture Self (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 9 | 2 | 22% | +12.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 7 | 1 | 14% | −3.00 |
| Class 5 | 5 | 1 | 20% | +12.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wincanton | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Uttoxeter | 2 | 1 | 50% | +15.00 |
| Worcester | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.00 |
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 2 | 40% | +16.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sam Twiston-Davies | 6 | 1 | 17% | +11.00 |
| James Bowen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Joe Anderson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Charlie Deutsch | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Miss Brodie Hampson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thomasina Eyston | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Tom Scudamore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Max Kendrick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 11 | 2 | 18% | +10.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2023 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2022 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +16.00 |
| 2021 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2020 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 10 | 2 | 20% | +11.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has The Turtle Said won?
- The Turtle Said (GB) won 2 of 13 archived starts between 2020 and 2024, a strike rate of 15.4%. Placed 5 times in total (38.5% of starts).
- Who trained The Turtle Said?
- The Turtle Said (GB) was trained by Neil Mulholland on the most recent run on record, at Uttoxeter on 26 July 2024.
- Who is The Turtle Said's sire?
- The Turtle Said (GB) is by Manduro (GER) out of Goslar (GB), whose sire is In The Wings.
- What going does The Turtle Said prefer?
- The Turtle Said (GB) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 9 starts (22.2%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is The Turtle Said's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 26 July 2024. The highest on record is 112.
- What is The Turtle Said's sire's record?
- Manduro (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 4,217 runs since Jan 2008 (410 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 6.8% from 1,095.
- Who are The Turtle Said's siblings?
- Out of Goslar (GB), The Turtle Said (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Gosbeck (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Gosbeck (GB)). The wins came over 1m2f–1m6f. As at Oct 2026.