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Horse profile

Turtlethomas (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2013) · Last trainer Lawney Hill · Last owner Andy Weller
by Turtle Island (IRE) out of Makingyourmindup (IRE) (Good Thyne)
9 runs · 8 courses · from Jan 2011
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Jun 2013 — 4,873 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2013 Won at Plumpton Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Turtlethomas (IRE) is 1 from 9, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Mar 2011. Last raced off 105, 15lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4 OR ↓ 15lb off peak
Official rating105↓ 15lb off peak
105 105–120

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Towcester, 3 Nov 2011 Official rating 105 at the last run, 19 Jun 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 127A · median 113
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good2115A110.5—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m3115A113—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Turtle Island (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 3,325 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 10.7% from 215.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2428.3%+0.8—
Good to Firm2152310.7%+3.20 from 2
Good800607.5%00 from 3
Good to Soft459408.7%+1.21 from 1
Soft1,001707%−0.50 from 3
Heavy786546.9%−0.6—
Standard (AW)4000%−7.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−7.5—
6f – 7f1100%−7.5—
1m – 1m1f2314.3%−3.2—
1m2f – 1m4f4137.3%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m954818.5%+10 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,144807%−0.51 from 2
2m5f – 3m954727.5%00 from 6
Over 3m197126.1%−1.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Makingyourmindup (IRE) (Good Thyne)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Blameitalonmyroots (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m3f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Blameitalonmyroots (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Blameitalonmyroots (IRE)2242m6½f–3mClass 3
Moorhill Lad (IRE)1312m3f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 1 100% +33.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 7 1 14% +27.00
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Uttoxeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Towcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 1 100% +33.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 6 0 0% −6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 1 50% +32.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Harry Skelton 4 1 25% +30.00
Gavin Sheehan 2 0 0% −2.00
David Bass 2 0 0% −2.00
Andrew Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 1 17% +28.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 5 0 0% −5.00
2011 4 1 25% +30.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 1 20% +29.00
Chase 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
19 Jun 13+46d Uttoxeter BetVictor Royal Ascot No Lose Hughes Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-11 105— Gavin Sheehan 12/1
04 May 13+32d Uttoxeter JPW Distribution Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Good · 13 ran 6/13 10 10-12 109106A Gavin Sheehan 33/1
02 Apr 13+34d Exeter Haulfryn Holidays Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 17 ran PU/17 — 11-6 109— Harry Skelton 25/1
27 Feb 13+11d Bangor-on-Dee Weatherbys Hamilton Insurance Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 6 ran PU/6 — 11-10 118— Harry Skelton 9/1
16 Feb 13+471d Ascot Sodexo Prestige Reynoldstown Novices' Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 24f · Soft · 5 ran F/5 — 11-0 —— Andrew Thornton 100/1
03 Nov 11+169d Towcester Agetur Uk Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 6 11-9 120115A David Bass 9/2
18 May 11+65d Worcester Ladbrokes Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 3/12 11 11-5 —113A Harry Skelton 11/10F
14 Mar 11+59d Plumpton starsportsbet.co.uk 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-12 —127A Harry Skelton 33/1
14 Jan 11 Huntingdon Peterborough Chase Restaurant Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Soft · 12 ran 7/12 7 10-9 —91C David Bass 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Turtlethomas (IRE) won?
Turtlethomas (IRE) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2011 and 2013, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained Turtlethomas (IRE)?
Turtlethomas (IRE) was trained by Lawney Hill on the most recent run on record, at Uttoxeter on 19 June 2013.
Who is Turtlethomas (IRE)'s sire?
Turtlethomas (IRE) is by Turtle Island (IRE) out of Makingyourmindup (IRE), whose sire is Good Thyne.
What is Turtlethomas (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 19 June 2013. The highest on record is 120.
What is Turtlethomas (IRE)'s sire's record?
Turtle Island (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 3,325 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 10.7% from 215.
Who are Turtlethomas (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Makingyourmindup (IRE), Turtlethomas (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Blameitalonmyroots (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Blameitalonmyroots (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3f–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.