Very Optimistic (IRE)
Very Optimistic (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 13 at Exeter (Nov 2005).
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (33.3%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 135Highest OR
- 69dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8% of 377 runs since Jan 2008 (51 horses).
Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 4.7% from 106.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 59 | 1 | 1.7% | −6.3 | — |
| Good | 130 | 11 | 8.5% | +0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 64 | 5 | 7.8% | −0.2 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 75 | 10 | 13.3% | +5.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 42 | 3 | 7.1% | −0.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 6 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 68 | 6 | 8.8% | +0.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 106 | 5 | 4.7% | −3.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 121 | 12 | 9.9% | +1.9 | 0 from 4 |
| Over 3m | 76 | 7 | 9.2% | +1.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
8 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Bright Prospect (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m3½f–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Bright Prospect (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bright Prospect (IRE) | 25 | 3 | 2m3½f–2m7½f | Class 3 |
| Mr Witmore (IRE) | 26 | 1 | 2m4f | Class 5 |
| Mr Floppy (IRE) | 16 | 1 | 2m5f | Class 5 |
| Bright Blaze (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Sea Robber (IRE) | 14 | 0 | — | — |
| First Tee (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Opens All Doors (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Secret Hill (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Haydock | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Southwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Uttoxeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richie McGrath | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Brian Harding | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Noel Fehily | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Graham Lee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| A P McCoy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mick Fitzgerald | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2006 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2005 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Hurdle | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Jan 06+34d | Southwell | Betfred Beginners' Chase | PU/8 | — | 11-5 | — | — | Richie McGrath | EvensF |
| 27 Dec 05+39d | Chepstow | Jim Neville Memorial Beginners' Chase | 4/10 | 1 | 11-4 | — | 85C | Brian Harding | 11/8F |
| 18 Nov 05+195d | Exeter | South-West Racing Experience Novices' Chase | 2/13 | 2½ | 10-12 | — | 125C | Noel Fehily | 13/2 |
| 07 May 05+7d | Haydock | Handicap Hurdle | 3/13 | ¾ | 10-1 | 132 | 104C | Graham Lee | 10/1 |
| 30 Apr 05+70d | Uttoxeter | totesport Handicap Hurdle | 15/18 | 15 | 11-6 | 134 | 102C | A P McCoy | 11/2 |
| 19 Feb 05 | Haydock | Pertemps Handicap Hurdle (Qualifier) | 10/15 | 2 | 11-8 | 135 | 100C | Mick Fitzgerald | 7/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Very Optimistic (IRE) won?
- Very Optimistic (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2005 and 2006. Placed 2 times in total (33.3% of starts).
- Who trained Very Optimistic (IRE)?
- Very Optimistic (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill on the most recent run on record, at Southwell on 30 January 2006.
- Who is Very Optimistic (IRE)'s sire?
- Very Optimistic (IRE) is by Un Desperado (FR) out of Bright Future (IRE), whose sire is Satco.
- What is Very Optimistic (IRE)'s official rating?
- Very Optimistic (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 135.
- What is Very Optimistic (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Un Desperado (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 8% of 377 runs since Jan 2008 (51 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 4.7% from 106.
- Who are Very Optimistic (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Bright Future (IRE), Very Optimistic (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Bright Prospect (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Bright Prospect (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.