Way Down We Go (IRE)
Way Down We Go, a gelding by Where Or When out of Cielador, is yet to win from seven starts on turf. He raced over trips from 1m5f to 3m, on ground ranging from heavy to good, without placing. His official rating reached a highest ever mark of 100 and stood at 95 when he finished 13 of 14 in the Adare Manor Opportunity Maiden Hurdle at Cork in Aug 2025. Aged 7 at his last run in Aug 2025.
- 0–7Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −7.00£1 level staken=7 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=7 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 100Highest OR
- 27dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 87
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 15 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 87B | 77 | — |
| Good to Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Heavy | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 15 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4 | 87B | 77 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 63C | 29.5 | — |
Of 7 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 3 analysed runs
- Held up 3 (100%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).
Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 2 | 11.1% | +1.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 258 | 23 | 8.9% | −0.3 | — |
| Good | 365 | 35 | 9.6% | +0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 193 | 22 | 11.4% | +2.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 217 | 9 | 4.1% | −5.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 84 | 10 | 11.9% | +2.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 443 | 44 | 9.9% | +0.7 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 53 | 8 | 15.1% | +5.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 151 | 7 | 4.6% | −4.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 209 | 15 | 7.2% | −2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 522 | 62 | 11.9% | +2.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 391 | 35 | 9% | −0.2 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 174 | 12 | 6.9% | −2.3 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 71 | 6 | 8.5% | −0.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 7 | 0 | 0% | −9.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ballinrobe | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Philip Donovan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Patrick M O'Brien | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Charlie O'Dwyer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cian Cullinan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cian Quirke | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| John Shinnick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 04 Aug 25+13d | Cork | Adare Manor Opportunity Maiden Hurdle Sat close to the pace early - 6th at halfway - dropped away steadily from 5 out and finished well beaten | 13/14 | 32 | 11-10 | 95 | 31C | 85C | Patrick M O'Brien | 66/1 |
| 22 Jul 25+9d | Ballinrobe | West 'Howya' Maiden Hurdle Held a midpack position early - needed encouragement past the 5th and jumped awkwardly two out - little response soon after and dropped away toward the finish | 11/15 | 1¼ | 10-13 | 98 | 76C | 85C | Charlie O'Dwyer | 100/1 |
| 13 Jul 25+93d | Sligo | CT Electrical Maiden Hurdle Held up towards the back - blundered three out and pushed along from there - responded under continued urging from two out to finish 5th | 5/10 | ½ | 11-5 | 100 | 78A | 98A | Cian Cullinan | 14/1 |
| 11 Apr 25+8d | Ballinrobe | Tim Kelly (C & G) Maiden Hurdle Up with the front group - minor error at the 1st - pushed along in 5th 2 out and made no impact | 7/15 | 2 | 10-13 | — | 87B | 100A | Philip Donovan | 200/1 |
| 03 Apr 25+21d | Naas | Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Settled close to the front - shared the advantage from the 2nd before losing it soon after - pressed for effort 3 out - sixth with 2 to go - dropped away after finishing well down the field | 12/17 | 1 | 11-7 | — | 63C | 91C | Philip Donovan | 500/1 |
| 13 Mar 25+18d | Limerick | John Buckley Engineering Ltd. Maiden Hurdle Held up towards the back - down in eighth after the seventh fence - lost touch with the field soon after - dropped away and pulled up before two out | PU/8 | — | 11-9 | — | — | — | Cian Quirke | 150/1 |
| 23 Feb 25 | Naas | Lily & Wild At The Post Maiden Hurdle Held up at back of field - never involved - well beaten in 20th | 20/20 | 44 | 11-7 | — | -4C | 91C | John Shinnick | 250/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Way Down We Go (IRE) won?
- Way Down We Go (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts in 2025.
- Who trained Way Down We Go (IRE)?
- Way Down We Go (IRE) was trained by Charlie Keegan on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 4 August 2025.
- Who is Way Down We Go (IRE)'s sire?
- Way Down We Go (IRE) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Cielador (IRE), whose sire is Celtic Swing.
- What is Way Down We Go (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 4 August 2025. The highest on record is 100.
- What is Way Down We Go (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.