Whenallelsefails (GB)
Whenallelsefails (GB) is yet to win from 9 starts. Last raced off 70, 13lb below the career-high mark.
- 0–9Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −9.00£1 level staken=9 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=9 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 83Highest OR
- 110dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 5.5% of 200 runs since Jan 2008 (30 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | +27.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 33 | 0 | 0% | −5.5 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 58 | 2 | 3.4% | −2.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 37 | 1 | 2.7% | −2.8 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 40 | 1 | 2.5% | −3 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 27 | 6 | 22.2% | +16.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −5.5 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −5.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −5.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 32 | 1 | 3.1% | −2.4 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 58 | 5 | 8.6% | +3.1 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 63 | 1 | 1.6% | −3.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 37 | 4 | 10.8% | +5.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Culm Counsellor (GB) (4 wins).
The wins came over 2m2½f–3m2½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Culm Counsellor (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Culm Counsellor (GB) | 42 | 4 | 2m2½f–3m2½f | Class 4 |
| Upton Wood (GB) | 21 | 2 | 2m2½f–2m3½f | Class 4 |
| Counsellor Tim (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Exeter | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Taunton | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hereford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wincanton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chris Honour | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Aidan Coleman | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Owyn Nelmes | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2008 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2006 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Whenallelsefails won?
- Whenallelsefails (GB) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2006 and 2009.
- Who trained Whenallelsefails?
- Whenallelsefails (GB) was trained by Chris Down on the most recent run on record, at Fontwell on 24 May 2009.
- Who is Whenallelsefails's sire?
- Whenallelsefails (GB) is by Petoski (GB) out of Miss Counsel (GB), whose sire is Leading Counsel.
- What is Whenallelsefails's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 70, from the run on 24 May 2009. The highest on record is 83.
- What is Whenallelsefails's sire's record?
- Petoski (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 5.5% of 200 runs since Jan 2008 (30 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Whenallelsefails's siblings?
- Out of Miss Counsel (GB), Whenallelsefails (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Culm Counsellor (GB) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Culm Counsellor (GB)). The wins came over 2m2½f–3m2½f. As at Oct 2026.