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Horse profile

Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2014) · Last trainer David Arbuthnot · Last owner A T A Wates
by Shantou (USA) out of Warning Cry (IRE) (Over The River)
5 runs · 4 courses · from May 2012
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 Jan 2014 — 4,652 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2014 Last raced off OR 110
KTB Profile

Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 6 at Plumpton (Mar 2013).

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell, 18 Feb 2013 Official rating 110 at the last run, 18 Jan 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 4 figures · best 115A · median 96
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Soft298C95.5—
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f4115A96—

Of 5 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 4 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Shantou (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 7,816 runs since Jan 2008 (539 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 20.3% from 158.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2150%+36.4—
Good to Firm1583220.3%+6.7—
Good2,28531013.6%00 from 1
Good to Soft1,42917612.3%−1.30 from 1
Soft2,61036313.9%+0.30 from 2
Heavy1,28117813.9%+0.30 from 1
Standard (AW)5159.8%−3.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−13.6—
1m – 1m1f1100%−13.6—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−3.9—
1m5f – 2m2,03027613.6%0—
2m1f – 2m4f2,70637814%+0.40 from 4
2m5f – 3m2,33633314.3%+0.70 from 1
Over 3m6687210.8%−2.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Warning Cry (IRE) (Over The River)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Evergreen Lane (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Cannon 3 0 0% −3.00
Jason Maguire 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00
None 2 0 0% −2.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 1 0 0% −1.00
2013 3 0 0% −3.00
2012 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
18 Jan 14+254d Taunton Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 23f · Heavy · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-12 110— Tom Cannon 33/1
09 May 13+59d Southwell Betvictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 20.5f · Good · 13 ran 11/13 24 11-0 11694C Jason Maguire 15/2
11 Mar 13+21d Plumpton Star Sports Cheltenham Preview At Plumpton 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Soft · 6 ran 2/6 39 10-9 11693C Tom Cannon 6/1
18 Feb 13+286d Southwell British Stallion Studs Coral.co.uk E.b.f. 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (qualifier) Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 ¾ 10-13 —115A Tom Cannon 50/1
08 May 12 Exeter David James Foundation 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Soft · 8 ran 4/8 11 10-12 —98C Andrew Thornton 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) won?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2012 and 2014. Placed 2 times in total (40% of starts).
Who trained Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) was trained by David Arbuthnot on the most recent run on record, at Taunton on 18 January 2014.
Who is Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)'s sire?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) is by Shantou (USA) out of Warning Cry (IRE), whose sire is Over The River.
What is Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 110, from the run on 18 January 2014. The highest on record is 116.
What is Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)'s sire's record?
Shantou (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 7,816 runs since Jan 2008 (539 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 20.3% from 158.
Who are Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Warning Cry (IRE), Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.