Why Lie (IRE)
Why Lie (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 3rd of 10 at Southwell (Jul 2019). Last raced off 95, 9lb below the career-high mark.
- 0–10Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (20%)Placed
- −10.00£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=10 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 104Highest OR
- 53dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 138
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 7 | 138B | 103 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 22 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 107C | 95 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 138B | 127.5 | — |
Of 10 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (3).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 1,455 runs since Jan 2008 (150 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 83 | 5 | 6% | −1.3 | — |
| Good | 463 | 35 | 7.6% | +0.3 | 0 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 235 | 17 | 7.2% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 403 | 24 | 6% | −1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 264 | 25 | 9.5% | +2.2 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 6 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 6 | 0 | 0% | −7.3 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 436 | 32 | 7.3% | 0 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 549 | 31 | 5.6% | −1.7 | 0 from 5 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 386 | 38 | 9.8% | +2.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 77 | 5 | 6.5% | −0.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Benefit Of Youth (IRE) (2 wins).
The wins came over 2m2f–2m7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Benefit Of Youth (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Benefit Of Youth (IRE) | 15 | 2 | 2m4f–2m7f | Class 4 |
| Prince Roco (IRE) | 26 | 2 | 2m2f–2m3f | — |
| Tintinhull (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Lucanor (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Miss Hilliers (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Worcester | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Southwell | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hereford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stan Sheppard | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Charlie Todd | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Theo Gillard | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Lewis Stones | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2018 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Why Lie (IRE) won?
- Why Lie (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2018 and 2019. Placed 2 times in total (20% of starts).
- Who trained Why Lie (IRE)?
- Why Lie (IRE) was trained by Alan Phillips on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 30 August 2019.
- Who is Why Lie (IRE)'s sire?
- Why Lie (IRE) is by Zagreb (USA) out of Persian Avenue (IRE), whose sire is Persian Mews.
- What is Why Lie (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 30 August 2019. The highest on record is 104.
- What is Why Lie (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Zagreb (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.3% of 1,455 runs since Jan 2008 (150 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Why Lie (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Persian Avenue (IRE), Why Lie (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Benefit Of Youth (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Benefit Of Youth (IRE)). The wins came over 2m2f–2m7f. As at Oct 2026.