Horse profile
Wise Men Say (IRE)
by Grand Plaisir (IRE) out of Queen Alda (GB) (Kambalda)
23 runs · 11 courses · from Oct 2006
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Mar 2010 — 6,066 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2010 · 3rd of 5
5 wins · Wincanton, Fontwell & Folkestone
Last raced off OR 104
KTB Profile
Wise Men Say (IRE) is 5 from 23. Hasn't won since Mar 2010. Last raced off 104, 8lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 23 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 8lb off peak
- 5–23Wins / Runs
- 21.7%Strike rate
- 9 (39.1%)Placed
- +20.00£1 level staken=23 at SP
- 2.21Fair A/E n=22 · 1.66 incl. margin
- 112Highest OR
- 16dBetween runs (median)longest 490 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating104↓ 8lb off peak
104
86–112
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Grand Plaisir (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 301 runs since Jan 2008 (33 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 5 | 1 | 20% | +11.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 27 | 2 | 7.4% | −1.2 | 0 from 3 |
| Good | 93 | 6 | 6.5% | −2.1 | 1 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 66 | 6 | 9.1% | +0.5 | 3 from 7 |
| Soft | 73 | 8 | 11% | +2.4 | 1 from 7 |
| Heavy | 37 | 3 | 8.1% | −0.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 47 | 3 | 6.4% | −2.2 | 2 from 9 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 92 | 5 | 5.4% | −3.2 | 3 from 11 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 120 | 11 | 9.2% | +0.6 | 0 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 42 | 7 | 16.7% | +8.1 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Queen Alda (GB) (Kambalda)
1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Corballis Queen (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 7 | 3 | 43% | +23.00 |
| Soft | 7 | 1 | 14% | +2.00 |
| Good | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 17 | 4 | 24% | +15.00 |
| Class 3 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 6 | 3 | 1 | 33% | +8.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wincanton | 8 | 2 | 25% | +4.00 |
| Fontwell | 3 | 2 | 67% | +17.00 |
| Newton Abbot | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Plumpton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Taunton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Stratford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Folkestone | 1 | 1 | 100% | +10.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 11 | 3 | 27% | +20.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 9 | 2 | 22% | +3.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Joe Tizzard | 20 | 3 | 15% | +6.00 |
| Richie McLernon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom O'Brien | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Mr Anthony Knott | 1 | 1 | 100% | +7.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 20 | 4 | 20% | +19.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.00 |
| 2009 | 10 | 2 | 20% | +10.00 |
| 2008 | 6 | 1 | 17% | +2.00 |
| 2007 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2006 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +9.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 14 | 3 | 21% | +14.00 |
| Chase | 6 | 1 | 17% | −2.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 1 | 33% | +8.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Mar 10+16d | Wincanton | Children's Trust Novices' Handicap Chase | 3/5 | 10 | 11-10 | 104 | 98B | Joe Tizzard | 2/1 |
| 12 Mar 10+16d | Wincanton | Higos Platinum Service Handicap Chase | 1/6 | 11-6 | 96 | 126B | Joe Tizzard | 3/1F | |
| 24 Feb 10+52d | Ludlow | Arrow Handicap Chase | 4/9 | 5 | 11-6 | 101 | 107A | Joe Tizzard | 10/1 |
| 03 Jan 10+24d | Plumpton | attheraces.com Be A Virtual Owner Handicap Hurdle | 11/11 | 16 | 11-12 | 110 | 95C | Joe Tizzard | 20/1 |
| 2009 · 10 runs | |||||||||
| 10 Dec 09+25d | Taunton | Brewin Dolphin Handicap Hurdle | 6/7 | 4½ | 10-10 | 111 | 95B | Joe Tizzard | 9/1 |
| 15 Nov 09+9d | Fontwell | Tikram Handicap Hurdle | PU/12 | — | 10-8 | 112 | — | Joe Tizzard | 15/2 |
| 06 Nov 09+13d | Fontwell | Coast 106fm 1st Birthday Celebration Handicap Hurdle | 1/16 | 11-2 | 104 | 128A | Joe Tizzard | 10/1 | |
| 24 Oct 09+155d | Chepstow | Bet totepool At totesport.com Novices' Handicap Chase | PU/7 | — | 11-0 | 99 | — | Joe Tizzard | 9/2 |
| 22 May 09+15d | Stratford | Jenkinsons Caterers Novices' Handicap Chase | 4/13 | 4½ | 10-11 | 100 | 106A | Joe Tizzard | 15/2 |
| 07 May 09+9d | Wincanton | Bathwick Tyres Taunton Handicap Hurdle | 3/16 | 1¼ | 11-12 | 100 | 121A | Joe Tizzard | 15/2 |
| 28 Apr 09+9d | Wincanton | Wincanton Handicap Hurdle | 3/14 | 1¾ | 11-12 | 100 | 126A | Joe Tizzard | 6/1 |
| 19 Apr 09+65d | Wincanton | Bathwick Tyres Midsomer Norton Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle | BD/17 | — | 11-7 | 100 | — | Richie McLernon | 8/1 |
| 13 Feb 09+12d | Sandown | Facilitas Tes Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 7/16 | 2½ | 10-9 | 93 | 111A | Joe Tizzard | 20/1 |
| 01 Feb 09+59d | Fontwell | Colin 'derby' Rose Memorial Handicap Hurdle | 1/14 | 10-4 | 93 | 113A | Tom O'Brien | 8/1 | |
| 2008 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 04 Dec 08+14d | Wincanton | Bathwick Tyres Taunton 'NH' Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 5/13 | 15 | 11-6 | 94 | 86C | Joe Tizzard | 9/2 |
| 20 Nov 08+123d | Wincanton | Racing Post 'Hands And Heels' Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 1/11 | 10-7 | 86 | 113A | Mr Anthony Knott | 7/1 | |
| 20 Jul 08+11d | Newton Abbot | Packexe Handicap Chase | PU/11 | — | 10-7 | 89 | — | Joe Tizzard | 7/1 |
| 09 Jul 08+22d | Worcester | Cotswold Scaffolding Novices' Hurdle | 3/10 | 14 | 10-12 | 100 | 102A | Joe Tizzard | 9/1 |
| 17 Jun 08+12d | Newton Abbot | 24th June Is Ladies Night Maiden Hurdle | 7/14 | 13 | 11-0 | 100 | 94C | Joe Tizzard | 20/1 |
| 05 Jun 08+490d | Newton Abbot | Paddock Restaurant 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle | 5/11 | 10 | 10-12 | 100 | 96C | Joe Tizzard | 17/2 |
| 2007 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 01 Feb 07+79d | Wincanton | Harry Stock Standard Open NH Flat Race | 10/17 | ½ | 11-11 | — | 100C | Joe Tizzard | 15/2 |
| 2006 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 14 Nov 06+29d | Folkestone | Nasons of Canterbury Standard Open NH Flat Race | 1/15 | 11-2 | — | 124C | Joe Tizzard | 10/1 | |
| 16 Oct 06 | Plumpton | Cenkos Securities Maiden Open NH Flat Race | 3/11 | 1¼ | 11-0 | — | 99C | Joe Tizzard | 11/4F |
Quick answers
- How many races has Wise Men Say won?
- Wise Men Say (IRE) won 5 of 23 archived starts between 2006 and 2010, a strike rate of 21.7%. Placed 9 times in total (39.1% of starts).
- Who trained Wise Men Say?
- Wise Men Say (IRE) was trained by Colin Tizzard on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 28 March 2010.
- Who is Wise Men Say's sire?
- Wise Men Say (IRE) is by Grand Plaisir (IRE) out of Queen Alda (GB), whose sire is Kambalda.
- What going does Wise Men Say prefer?
- Wise Men Say (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 3 wins from 7 starts (42.9%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Wise Men Say's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 104, from the run on 28 March 2010. The highest on record is 112.
- What is Wise Men Say's sire's record?
- Grand Plaisir (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 301 runs since Jan 2008 (33 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Wise Men Say's siblings?
- Out of Queen Alda (GB), Wise Men Say (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.