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Horse profile

Wise Men Say (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2010) · Last trainer Colin Tizzard · Last owner Mrs Wendy Hezel
by Grand Plaisir (IRE) out of Queen Alda (GB) (Kambalda)
23 runs · 11 courses · from Oct 2006
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Mar 2010 — 6,066 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2010 · 3rd of 5 5 wins · Wincanton, Fontwell & Folkestone Last raced off OR 104
KTB Profile

Wise Men Say (IRE) is 5 from 23. Hasn't won since Mar 2010. Last raced off 104, 8lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 8lb off peak
Official rating104↓ 8lb off peak
104 86–112

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 126B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wincanton, 12 Mar 2010 Official rating 104 at the last run, 28 Mar 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 128A · median 106
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good to Soft7128A107—
Soft6113A95.5—
Good5126B121—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f9128A102—
1m5f – 2m8126B110—
2m5f – 3m2106A96—

Of 23 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 19 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Grand Plaisir (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 301 runs since Jan 2008 (33 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5120%+11.4—
Good to Firm2727.4%−1.20 from 3
Good9366.5%−2.11 from 5
Good to Soft6669.1%+0.53 from 7
Soft73811%+2.41 from 7
Heavy3738.1%−0.50 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m4736.4%−2.22 from 9
2m1f – 2m4f9255.4%−3.23 from 11
2m5f – 3m120119.2%+0.60 from 2
Over 3m42716.7%+8.10 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Queen Alda (GB) (Kambalda)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Corballis Queen (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 7 3 43% +23.00
Soft 7 1 14% +2.00
Good 5 1 20% −1.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 17 4 24% +15.00
Class 3 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 3 1 33% +8.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wincanton 8 2 25% +4.00
Fontwell 3 2 67% +17.00
Newton Abbot 3 0 0% −3.00
Plumpton 2 0 0% −2.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Folkestone 1 1 100% +10.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 11 3 27% +20.00
1m5f – 2m 9 2 22% +3.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Joe Tizzard 20 3 15% +6.00
Richie McLernon 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom O'Brien 1 1 100% +8.00
Mr Anthony Knott 1 1 100% +7.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 20 4 20% +19.00
Cheekpieces 3 1 33% +1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 4 1 25% +0.00
2009 10 2 20% +10.00
2008 6 1 17% +2.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00
2006 2 1 50% +9.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 14 3 21% +14.00
Chase 6 1 17% −2.00
NH Flat 3 1 33% +8.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2010 · 4 runs
28 Mar 10+16d Wincanton Children's Trust Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 3/5 10 11-10 10498B Joe Tizzard 2/1
12 Mar 10+16d Wincanton Higos Platinum Service Handicap Chase Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 11-6 96126B Joe Tizzard 3/1F
24 Feb 10+52d Ludlow Arrow Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 9 ran 4/9 5 11-6 101107A Joe Tizzard 10/1
03 Jan 10+24d Plumpton attheraces.com Be A Virtual Owner Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 11 ran 11/11 16 11-12 11095C Joe Tizzard 20/1
2009 · 10 runs
10 Dec 09+25d Taunton Brewin Dolphin Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m3f · Soft · 7 ran 6/7 4½ 10-10 11195B Joe Tizzard 9/1
15 Nov 09+9d Fontwell Tikram Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m1½f · Heavy · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-8 112— Joe Tizzard 15/2
06 Nov 09+13d Fontwell Coast 106fm 1st Birthday Celebration Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 1/16 11-2 104128A Joe Tizzard 10/1
24 Oct 09+155d Chepstow Bet totepool At totesport.com Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-0 99— Joe Tizzard 9/2
22 May 09+15d Stratford Jenkinsons Caterers Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m5f · Good · 13 ran 4/13 4½ 10-11 100106A Joe Tizzard 15/2
07 May 09+9d Wincanton Bathwick Tyres Taunton Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 1¼ 11-12 100121A Joe Tizzard 15/2
28 Apr 09+9d Wincanton Wincanton Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good · 14 ran 3/14 1¾ 11-12 100126A Joe Tizzard 6/1
19 Apr 09+65d Wincanton Bathwick Tyres Midsomer Norton Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Firm · 17 ran BD/17 — 11-7 100— Richie McLernon 8/1
13 Feb 09+12d Sandown Facilitas Tes Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m4f · Soft · 16 ran 7/16 2½ 10-9 93111A Joe Tizzard 20/1
01 Feb 09+59d Fontwell Colin 'derby' Rose Memorial Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1½f · Soft · 14 ran 1/14 10-4 93113A Tom O'Brien 8/1
2008 · 6 runs
04 Dec 08+14d Wincanton Bathwick Tyres Taunton 'NH' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5½f · Soft · 13 ran 5/13 15 11-6 9486C Joe Tizzard 9/2
20 Nov 08+123d Wincanton Racing Post 'Hands And Heels' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 1/11 10-7 86113A Mr Anthony Knott 7/1
20 Jul 08+11d Newton Abbot Packexe Handicap Chase Class 4 · 3m2f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-7 89— Joe Tizzard 7/1
09 Jul 08+22d Worcester Cotswold Scaffolding Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 14 10-12 100102A Joe Tizzard 9/1
17 Jun 08+12d Newton Abbot 24th June Is Ladies Night Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 7/14 13 11-0 10094C Joe Tizzard 20/1
05 Jun 08+490d Newton Abbot Paddock Restaurant 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m2½f · Soft · 11 ran 5/11 10 10-12 10096C Joe Tizzard 17/2
2007 · 1 run
01 Feb 07+79d Wincanton Harry Stock Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 10/17 ½ 11-11 —100C Joe Tizzard 15/2
2006 · 2 runs
14 Nov 06+29d Folkestone Nasons of Canterbury Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m1½f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 1/15 11-2 —124C Joe Tizzard 10/1
16 Oct 06 Plumpton Cenkos Securities Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m1½f · Good · 11 ran 3/11 1¼ 11-0 —99C Joe Tizzard 11/4F

Quick answers

How many races has Wise Men Say won?
Wise Men Say (IRE) won 5 of 23 archived starts between 2006 and 2010, a strike rate of 21.7%. Placed 9 times in total (39.1% of starts).
Who trained Wise Men Say?
Wise Men Say (IRE) was trained by Colin Tizzard on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 28 March 2010.
Who is Wise Men Say's sire?
Wise Men Say (IRE) is by Grand Plaisir (IRE) out of Queen Alda (GB), whose sire is Kambalda.
What going does Wise Men Say prefer?
Wise Men Say (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 3 wins from 7 starts (42.9%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Wise Men Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 104, from the run on 28 March 2010. The highest on record is 112.
What is Wise Men Say's sire's record?
Grand Plaisir (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 301 runs since Jan 2008 (33 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Wise Men Say's siblings?
Out of Queen Alda (GB), Wise Men Say (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.