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Horse profile

Wontbelongnow (IRE)

7yo mare (at last run, Aug 2014) · Last trainer John J Walsh · Last owner E Miskella
by Presenting (GB) out of Candle Massini (IRE) (Dr Massini)
24 runs · 10 courses · from Apr 2011
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Aug 2014 — 4,450 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2014 · 4th of 16 Won at Killarney Last raced off OR 102
KTB Profile

Wontbelongnow (IRE) is 1 from 24. Hasn't won since May 2013.

Based on 24 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating102↓ 3lb off peak
102 101–105

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 123A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kilbeggan, 22 Aug 2014 Official rating 102 at the last jumps run, 22 Aug 2014

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 65C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Punchestown, 27 Apr 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 125A · median 110
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft10123A105—
Good6123A114.5—
Good to Firm2112A103—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f8125A104.5—
2m5f – 3m7123A119—
1m5f – 2m4119A107—
Flat 2 figures · best 65C · median 63
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f265C63—

Of 24 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 24 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.80 from 3
Good7,02284012%+10 from 7
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.80 from 1
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.81 from 11
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.10 from 2
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.10 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.20 from 12
2m5f – 3m6,53774211.4%+0.41 from 8
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Candle Massini (IRE) (Dr Massini)

3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Push Ahead (IRE)90——
Ballyart (IRE)120——
Carricktriss (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 11 1 9% −4.50
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cork 6 0 0% −6.00
Limerick 4 0 0% −4.00
Galway 3 0 0% −3.00
Roscommon 3 0 0% −3.00
Clonmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 2 0 0% −2.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 1 100% +5.50
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 12 0 0% −12.00
2m5f – 3m 8 1 13% −1.50
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Brian O'Connell 13 1 8% −6.50
Ambrose McCurtin 7 0 0% −7.00
Phillip Enright 4 0 0% −4.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 17 1 6% −10.50
Cheekpieces 6 0 0% −6.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 6 0 0% −6.00
2013 7 1 14% −0.50
2012 8 0 0% −8.00
2011 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 18 1 6% −11.50
NH Flat 4 0 0% −4.00
Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2014 · 6 runs
22 Aug 14+23d Kilbeggan Pat Doyle Memorial Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 22f · Good · 16 ran 4/16 2 11-12 102123A Brian O'Connell 16/1
30 Jul 14+6d Galway 40,000 Tote Jackpot Guarantee Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 20.5f · Good · 20 ran 10/20 3¾ 10-6 10397A Brian O'Connell 50/1
24 Jul 14+18d Limerick Munster National 12th October (Q.R.) Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 22f · Yielding · 11 ran 8/11 2 11-11 103105A Ambrose McCurtin 16/1
06 Jul 14+26d Limerick Derek Ryan Plays Live 24th July Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 21f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 18/18 7 11-2 10494C Brian O'Connell 10/1
10 Jun 14+23d Roscommon Athlone Handicap Hurdle 20f · Yielding · 11 ran 5/11 13 9-13 10599A Phillip Enright 9/1
18 May 14+196d Limerick Join The Tote Go Racing Club Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 19f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 3/15 1¼ 10-12 102125A Brian O'Connell 14/1
2013 · 7 runs
03 Nov 13+43d Cork Paddy Power Shops - Your Best Bet For National Hunt Action Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 20f · Soft · 20 ran F/20 — 11-7 103— Brian O'Connell 10/1
21 Sep 13+33d Listowel M.j. Carroll Arro Handicap Hurdle 20f · Yielding · 18 ran 11/18 2½ 10-1 104104A Phillip Enright 16/1
19 Aug 13+19d Roscommon Murray Ambulance Service Mares Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 20.5f · Good · 18 ran 10/18 nk 11-9 105110A Brian O'Connell 11/2
31 Jul 13+19d Galway Bet 10 Get 10 At Thetote.com Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 20.5f · Soft · 19 ran 2/19 12 10-6 103114A Brian O'Connell 8/1
12 Jul 13+31d Cork Corkracecourse.ie Mares Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 20f · Good To Firm · 18 ran PU/18 — 11-9 103— Brian O'Connell 5/1
11 Jun 13+29d Roscommon Abbey Hotel Roscommon Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 24f · Soft · 18 ran 4/18 1¼ 11-5 102123A Brian O'Connell 5/1
13 May 13+211d Killarney M.d. O'sheas Maiden Hurdle 22f · Soft · 18 ran 1/18 10-11 101119A Brian O'Connell 11/2
2012 · 8 runs
14 Oct 12+14d Limerick Oakbruce Properties Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 22f · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran PU/17 — 11-5 102— Brian O'Connell 12/1
30 Sep 12+19d Clonmel Tipp FM Family Raceday Handicap Hurdle (80-109) (Div 1) 24f · Good · 18 ran 3/18 6 11-4 101119A Brian O'Connell 6/1J
11 Sep 12+36d Galway Parkmore Maiden Hurdle 18f · Soft · 19 ran 6/19 2½ 11-5 —105A Brian O'Connell 8/1
06 Aug 12+24d Cork Corkracecourse.ie Maiden Hurdle 19f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 9/15 16 11-5 —86C Phillip Enright 4/1
13 Jul 12+49d Cork Friday July 13th BBQ Evening Maiden Hurdle 24f · Soft · 23 ran 2/23 2 11-5 —113A Phillip Enright 10/1
25 May 12+28d Cork mallow.ie Flat Race 16f · Good · 20 ran 2/20 4½ 11-0 —119A Ambrose McCurtin 14/1
27 Apr 12+22d Punchestown Irish Thoroughbred Breeders Association Fillies Scheme Fillies Premier Bumper 17f · Heavy · 23 ran 10/23 2¾ 11-2 —65C Ambrose McCurtin 16/1
05 Apr 12+151d Clonmel Happy Easter To All Our Patrons Mares Flat Race 16.5f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 2/14 6 11-0 —112A Ambrose McCurtin 4/1
2011 · 3 runs
06 Nov 11+184d Cork Irish Foal Levy Mares (pro/am) Flat Race 16f · Soft · 17 ran 8/17 ½ 10-11 —102A Ambrose McCurtin 6/1
06 May 11+19d Punchestown Irish Thoroughbred Breeders Association Fillies Scheme Fillies Premier Bumper 17f · Good · 25 ran 5/25 3½ 10-8 —61B Ambrose McCurtin 12/1
17 Apr 11 Gowran Park Inistioge (Pro/Am) Flat Race (Div 2) 16f · Good · 17 ran 5/17 5 10-9 —102A Ambrose McCurtin 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Wontbelongnow won?
Wontbelongnow (IRE) won 1 of 24 archived starts between 2011 and 2014, a strike rate of 4.2%. Placed 9 times in total (37.5% of starts).
Who trained Wontbelongnow?
Wontbelongnow (IRE) was trained by John J Walsh on the most recent run on record, at Kilbeggan on 22 August 2014.
Who is Wontbelongnow's sire?
Wontbelongnow (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Candle Massini (IRE), whose sire is Dr Massini.
What going does Wontbelongnow prefer?
Wontbelongnow (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 11 starts (9.1%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Wontbelongnow's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 102, from the run on 22 August 2014. The highest on record is 105.
What is Wontbelongnow's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Wontbelongnow's siblings?
Out of Candle Massini (IRE), Wontbelongnow (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.