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Horse profile

You Say What (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2019) · Last trainer David Pipe · Last owner Turner Webb
by Milan (GB) out of Wave Back (IRE) (Bob Back)
23 runs · 11 courses · from Oct 2015
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Jun 2019 — 2,685 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2019 4 wins · Newton Abbot & Exeter Last raced off OR 127
KTB Profile

You Say What (IRE) is 4 from 23. Hasn't won since May 2019.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
Official rating127↓ 5lb off peak
127 114–132

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 130 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Exeter, 16 Apr 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 135A · median 102.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good to Soft4130A102.5—
Soft2118A86—
Good2135A94—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m5135A113—
Over 3m3130A92—

Of 14 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (3) · did not complete (3).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 14 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 129B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newton Abbot, 8 May 2019 Official rating 127 at the last run, 30 Jun 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 18 figures · best 140B · median 123
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft6137A118.5—
Good to Soft5140B127—
Good4125A119.5—
Heavy3134A130—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m9140B125—
Over 3m6137A128—
1m5f – 2m3121A114—

Of 23 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Milan (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,876 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1815.6%−5.7—
Good to Firm5536611.9%+0.6—
Good5,17965212.6%+1.30 from 5
Good to Soft3,30238611.7%+0.42 from 5
Soft5,03550210%−1.31 from 9
Heavy2,71630311.2%−0.11 from 4
Standard (AW)7322.7%−8.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−11.3—
1m – 1m1f9111.1%−0.2—
1m2f – 1m4f5835.2%−6.1—
1m5f – 2m3,86140410.5%−0.80 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f5,48459910.9%−0.4—
2m5f – 3m5,81170012%+0.73 from 12
Over 3m1,65020512.4%+1.11 from 8

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Aug 2008 · as at 6 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Wave Back (IRE) (Bob Back)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Walk On Al (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 3m–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Walk On Al (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Walk On Al (IRE)1723m–3m1½fClass 4
Wave The Grapes (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 9 1 11% −5.75
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 5 2 40% +6.33
Heavy 4 1 25% +6.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 15 2 13% −7.42
Class 4 4 2 50% +13.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Exeter 9 3 33% +11.25
Uttoxeter 3 0 0% −3.00
Ffos Las 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 2 0 0% −2.00
Newton Abbot 1 1 100% +3.33
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 12 3 25% +8.25
Over 3m 8 1 13% −3.67
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Scudamore 10 2 20% −2.42
Trevor Whelan 10 2 20% +7.00
David Noonan 1 0 0% −1.00
Richie McLernon 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Bannister 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 12 2 17% +5.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 6 1 17% −2.75
Tongue tie + blinkers 4 1 25% +0.33
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 5 1 20% −0.67
2018 2 0 0% −2.00
2017 6 1 17% −2.75
2016 6 1 17% +1.00
2015 4 1 25% +6.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 13 2 15% −5.42
Hurdle 7 2 29% +10.00
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2019 · 5 runs
30 Jun 19+35d Uttoxeter bet365 Summer Cup (Listed Open Handicap Chase) Class 1 · 3m2f · Good · 15 ran F/15 — 10-1 127—— Tom Scudamore 9/1
26 May 19+18d Uttoxeter Drivehome With Stu Haycock On Signal 2 Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m2f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 2/4 nk 11-12 12492C127C Tom Scudamore EvensF
08 May 19+22d Newton Abbot newtonabbotracing.com Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m2f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 1/8 10-10 11565A129B Tom Scudamore 10/3F
16 Apr 19+23d Exeter racingtv.com Devon Stayers Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m6½f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 ¾ 11-4 115130A121A Tom Scudamore 4/1F
24 Mar 19+431d Exeter GG Racing Podcast Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Good To Soft · 11 ran 6/11 1 11-0 119113A108A Tom Scudamore 14/1
2018 · 2 runs
17 Jan 18+16d Newbury Betfred 'Treble Odds On All Lucky 15's' Handicap Chase (For The Harwell Trophy) Class 3 · 2m7½f · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-7 124—— David Noonan 10/1
01 Jan 18+24d Exeter Hartnoll Hotel Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Heavy · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-6 124—— Tom Scudamore 9/4F
2017 · 6 runs
08 Dec 17+12d Exeter Premier League Betting At 188Bet Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m6½f · Soft · 17 ran 2/17 ¾ 11-9 114—134A Tom Scudamore 5/1
26 Nov 17+19d Exeter Read Noel Fehily At 188bet Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-1 114118A133B Tom Scudamore 9/4
07 Nov 17+212d Exeter Smith & Williamson Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Soft · 10 ran 5/10 24 11-4 11854B91B Tom Scudamore 8/1
09 Apr 17+55d Ffos Las British Horse Society Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 3m · Good · 12 ran 7/12 3 11-5 128135A118A Tom Scudamore 14/1
13 Feb 17+43d Plumpton Read Barry Geraghty's Blog On attheraces.com Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 3 · 3m1½f · Soft · 5 ran PU/5 — 11-6 124—— Trevor Whelan 6/1
01 Jan 17+29d Exeter Bathwick Tyres Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-12 130—— Richie McLernon 11/1
2016 · 6 runs
03 Dec 16+243d Chepstow Marion Winship Memorial Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 3 · 2m7½f · Good · 10 ran 10/10 6 11-5 13253C98C Trevor Whelan 12/1
04 Apr 16+27d Warwick ApolloBet Cashback Specials Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 3m1f · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 2¾ 11-12 130—137A Trevor Whelan 3/1F
08 Mar 16+13d Exeter Watch Racing Uk Hd From Today Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m7f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 1/5 11-9 125—140B Trevor Whelan 6/1
24 Feb 16+19d Doncaster BetBrightBoost Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 3m½f · Good · 12 ran 5/12 6 11-8 125—125A Trevor Whelan 20/1
05 Feb 16+35d Chepstow 32red On The App Store Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m7½f · Heavy · 10 ran 2/10 2 11-5 ——134A Trevor Whelan 7/1
01 Jan 16+15d Catterick Racing Uk Profits Returned To Racing Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 3m1½f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 30 11-5 ——104C Harry Bannister 5/1
2015 · 4 runs
17 Dec 15+9d Exeter Free Bet At 188bet Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m7f · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 11-0 ——130A Trevor Whelan 9/1
08 Dec 15+30d Uttoxeter Pirelli Blue Shift Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Heavy · 7 ran 3/7 4½ 11-0 ——114A Trevor Whelan 6/1
08 Nov 15+22d Sandown Bibendum Wine Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 9 ran 7/9 1¼ 11-0 ——101A Trevor Whelan 12/1
17 Oct 15 Ffos Las Thomas Carroll Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m · Good · 10 ran 3/10 ¾ 11-0 ——121A Trevor Whelan 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has You Say What won?
You Say What (IRE) won 4 of 23 archived starts between 2015 and 2019, a strike rate of 17.4%. Placed 9 times in total (39.1% of starts).
Who trained You Say What?
You Say What (IRE) was trained by David Pipe on the most recent run on record, at Uttoxeter on 30 June 2019.
Who is You Say What's sire?
You Say What (IRE) is by Milan (GB) out of Wave Back (IRE), whose sire is Bob Back.
What going does You Say What prefer?
You Say What (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 2 wins from 5 starts (40%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is You Say What's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 127, from the run on 30 June 2019. The highest on record is 132.
What is You Say What's sire's record?
Milan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,876 runs since Aug 2008 (1,463 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are You Say What's siblings?
Out of Wave Back (IRE), You Say What (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Walk On Al (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Walk On Al (IRE)). The wins came over 3m–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from October 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.