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Horse profile

Young Guns (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2007) · Last trainer John O'Shea · Last owner K W Bell
by Turtle Island (IRE) out of Glorious Bid (IRE) (Horage)
10 runs · 4 courses · from Nov 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 11 Oct 2007 — 6,957 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2007 · 10th of 13 Last raced off OR 82
KTB Profile

Young Guns (IRE) is yet to win from 10 starts. Best effort: 3rd of 4 at Newton Abbot (Aug 2006).

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 89C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hereford, 23 Dec 2006 Official rating 82 at the last run, 11 Oct 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 108C · median 89
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm6108C82.5—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m6108C92—
2m1f – 2m4f389C81—

Of 10 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Turtle Island (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 3,325 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 10.7% from 215.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2428.3%+0.8—
Good to Firm2152310.7%+3.20 from 7
Good800607.5%00 from 1
Good to Soft459408.7%+1.20 from 1
Soft1,001707%−0.5—
Heavy786546.9%−0.60 from 1
Standard (AW)4000%−7.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−7.5—
6f – 7f1100%−7.5—
1m – 1m1f2314.3%−3.2—
1m2f – 1m4f4137.3%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m954818.5%+10 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f1,144807%−0.50 from 3
2m5f – 3m954727.5%0—
Over 3m197126.1%−1.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Glorious Bid (IRE) (Horage)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Orpen Bid (IRE)380——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 6 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hereford 7 0 0% −7.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Dave Crosse 7 0 0% −7.00
Tom O'Brien 2 0 0% −2.00
P C O'Neill 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2006 6 0 0% −6.00
2005 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00
NH Flat 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2007 · 3 runs
11 Oct 07+36d Wincanton Higos Insurance Services Somerton Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 10/13 6 10-13 8255C P C O'Neill 66/1
05 Sep 07+147d Hereford Worthington Classic Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 16 ran PU/16 — 11-0 85— Tom O'Brien 50/1
11 Apr 07+109d Hereford Weatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 8/18 30 10-13 8777C Dave Crosse 50/1
2006 · 6 runs
23 Dec 06+48d Hereford totequadpot Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 11/14 15 10-12 —89C Dave Crosse 100/1
05 Nov 06+71d Hereford Brian Griffiths Keltec Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 8/15 5 11-0 —84C Dave Crosse 66/1
26 Aug 06+68d Newton Abbot Asda 'NH' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Good To Firm · 4 ran 3/4 14 10-12 —81C Dave Crosse 7/2
19 Jun 06+15d Hereford Letheby & Christopher Standard NH Flat Race (Conds & Amats) Class 6 · 13f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 4/15 ½ 10-12 —108C Tom O'Brien 6/1
04 Jun 06+76d Hereford Butlins Bingo Online Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 8/14 hd 11-3 —93C Dave Crosse 11/1
20 Mar 06+138d Hereford Marstow Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 13f · Good · 16 ran 4/16 7 11-4 —105C Dave Crosse 66/1
2005 · 1 run
02 Nov 05 Chepstow Letheby & Christopher Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Heavy · 11 ran 9/11 19 11-4 —91C Dave Crosse 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Young Guns won?
Young Guns (IRE) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2005 and 2007.
Who trained Young Guns?
Young Guns (IRE) was trained by John O'Shea on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 11 October 2007.
Who is Young Guns's sire?
Young Guns (IRE) is by Turtle Island (IRE) out of Glorious Bid (IRE), whose sire is Horage.
What is Young Guns's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 82, from the run on 11 October 2007. The highest on record is 87.
What is Young Guns's sire's record?
Turtle Island (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 3,325 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 10.7% from 215.
Who are Young Guns's siblings?
Out of Glorious Bid (IRE), Young Guns (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.