Horse profile
Big Debates (FR)
by Sholokhov (IRE) out of Morbidezza (GER) (Lecroix)
44 runs · 15 courses · from Nov 2019
As at 18 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
7 wins · 5 courses
Headgear returns LTO
Off 349 days · 2nd of 13
Last raced off OR 120
KTB Profile
Big Debates (FR) is 7 wins from 44 runs on turf, with all wins in handicaps on soft or heavy going. Three of those wins came over 2m5f – 3m and three over 1m5f – 2m. He won the Start Your Racing TV Free Trial Now Ladies Handicap Hurdle at Navan in Sep 2025 and finished 2 of 13 in the Paddy Power Cork Grand National Handicap Chase at Cork in Nov 2025, last raced off OR 120. Headgear returns LTO.
Based on 44 archived runs · run-style from 5 commented runs · updated 18 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Typically held up
OR ↓ 11lb off peak
- 7–44Wins / Runs
- 15.9%Strike rate
- 15 (34.1%)Placed
- +9.50£1 level staken=44 at SP
- 1.89Fair A/E n=44 · 1.55 incl. margin
- 131Highest OR
- 50dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating120↓ 11lb off peak
120
95–131
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed 104
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Jumps
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 18 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 15 | 117B | 78 | — |
| Heavy | 10 | 173B | 82 | — |
| Good | 4 | 95B | 86.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 108C | 74 | 1 · — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 18 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 16 | 117B | 87 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 7 | 108C | 74 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 7 | 173B | 65 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 81A | 77.5 | 1 · — |
Of 44 runs looked at, 12 have no figure: did not complete (7) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (4) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 32 figures from 44 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 5 analysed runs
- Held up 5 (100%) · 2 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Sholokhov (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 12.5% of 4,256 runs since Jan 2008 (419 horses).
Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.9% from 157.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 99 | 14 | 14.1% | +1.6 | — |
| Good | 1,267 | 145 | 11.4% | −1.1 | 0 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 814 | 110 | 13.5% | +1 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 1,304 | 169 | 13% | +0.5 | 5 from 20 |
| Heavy | 549 | 69 | 12.6% | +0.1 | 2 from 16 |
| Standard (AW) | 222 | 23 | 10.4% | −2.1 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 39 | 6 | 15.4% | +2.9 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 157 | 14 | 8.9% | −3.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 326 | 32 | 9.8% | −2.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,051 | 126 | 12% | −0.5 | 3 from 11 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,454 | 192 | 13.2% | +0.7 | 1 from 21 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 991 | 125 | 12.6% | +0.1 | 3 from 10 |
| Over 3m | 238 | 35 | 14.7% | +2.2 | 0 from 2 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 17 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Morbidezza (GER) (Lecroix)
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Maison De Ville (GER) (2 wins).
The wins came over 2m3f–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Maison De Ville (GER)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maison De Ville (GER) | 10 | 2 | 2m3f–2m4½f | Class 4 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 20 | 5 | 25% | +23.00 |
| Heavy | 16 | 2 | 13% | −5.50 |
| Good | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Limerick | 8 | 3 | 38% | +8.00 |
| Gowran Park | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Cork | 5 | 1 | 20% | +1.00 |
| Punchestown | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 4 | 1 | 25% | +2.50 |
| Wexford | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Navan | 2 | 1 | 50% | +19.00 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Clonmel | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ballinrobe | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 21 | 1 | 5% | −16.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 11 | 3 | 27% | +8.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 10 | 3 | 30% | +19.50 |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phillip Enright | 24 | 3 | 13% | −7.50 |
| Anna McGuinness | 6 | 1 | 17% | +15.00 |
| James Smith | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.50 |
| Jack Foley | 3 | 2 | 67% | +8.50 |
| Ryan Treacy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| John Shinnick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Daniel King | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Michael O'Sullivan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Danny Hand | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 42 | 7 | 17% | +11.50 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | 6 | 1 | 17% | +15.00 |
| 2024 | 10 | 1 | 10% | −5.50 |
| 2023 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2022 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +7.50 |
| 2021 | 6 | 3 | 50% | +9.50 |
| 2020 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| 2019 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 22 | 3 | 14% | +9.50 |
| Chase | 21 | 4 | 19% | +1.00 |
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 02 Nov 25+43d | Cork | Paddy Power Cork Grand National Handicap Chase (0-150) (Listed) Sat close to the front pack early - 4th at halfway before moving into 2nd but blundered 5 out - stayed on at one gear from 3 out - unable to threaten winner in second | 2/13 | 6 | 10-7 | 120 | 74B | 120A | Anna McGuinness | 13/2 |
| 20 Sep 25+140d | Navan | Start Your Racing TV Free Trial Now Ladies Handicap Hurdle Sat behind pace on the wide side - third with two furlongs left - moved to front approaching final fence looking comfortable - asked for effort and drew away - kept finding more to the line for a comfortable win | 1/16 | 11-0 | 100 | 104B | 131A | Anna McGuinness | 20/1 | |
| 03 May 25+32d | Punchestown | Palmerstown House Estate Pat Taaffe Handicap Chase (0-150) (Listed) Held up at rear from the start - never a threat from 5 out - eased out of contention before the second-last | PU/12 | — | 10-0 | 129 | — | — | John Shinnick | 28/1 |
| 01 Apr 25+19d | Limerick | Munster Suite At Limerick Handicap Hurdle (0-100) (Div 2) Settled with the pack early - 6th before moving into 5th and 4th out - advanced into 2nd turning for home - blundered two out - unable to close on the winner at the last - kept on to the line - beaten three quarters of a length | 2/16 | ¾ | 11-7 | 98 | 95B | 124A | James Smith | 4/1 |
| 13 Mar 25+49d | Limerick | Ryans Cleaning Veterans Handicap Chase Held up towards the back early - began to make ground from the 5th and into the 8th - up to 5th by the 10th - moved into 4th before 3 out - joined the front two 2 out - overtaken soon after - dropped to 3rd - held that spot to the line | 3/7 | ¾ | 11-8 | 131 | 74A | 128B | James Smith | 4/1 |
| 23 Jan 25+27d | Gowran Park | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle Raced in the back half of the pack - serious mistake at the 3rd - dropped away after 4 out and pulled up before 3 out | PU/18 | — | 10-4 | 100 | — | — | James Smith | 7/1 |
| 27 Dec 24+54d | Limerick | Tim & Martin Molony Veterans Handicap Chase Settled just behind the pace - into 3rd shortly after - up to 2nd after 3 out - moved to the front approaching the straight in fine style - opened up before 2 out - kept finding more to score comfortably | 1/6 | 11-7 | 125 | 70A | 130B | James Smith | 7/2 | |
| 03 Nov 24+14d | Cork | Paddy Power Cork Grand National Handicap Chase (0-150) (Listed) Settled off the pace early - hint of a stumble at the 10th - pushed along in 8th four out - unable to close in 6th at the last but stayed on to finish 4th | 4/10 | 3¼ | 10-13 | 125 | 81A | 116A | Anna McGuinness | 40/1 |
| 20 Oct 24+24d | Limerick | Crown Paints Handicap Hurdle (80-109) Held a share of the front early - among the closer group at halfway - dropped back after 3 out - weakened through the closing stages - finished 11th well beaten | 11/13 | ½ | 11-2 | 104 | 92B | 94A | Anna McGuinness | 22/1 |
| 26 Sep 24+82d | Listowel | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) Held up at the back - no impression made throughout - well held at the finish | 8/11 | 3¾ | 11-12 | 109 | 45C | 99C | Anna McGuinness | 25/1 |
| 06 Jul 24+27d | Bellewstown | QuinnBet Handicap Hurdle | 10/13 | 16 | 11-2 | 112 | 50C | 98C | Phillip Enright | 25/1 |
| 09 Jun 24+36d | Punchestown | Cheers To The Punchestown Women Ladies Handicap Hurdle | 10/15 | 1¾ | 11-5 | 113 | — | 114A | Anna McGuinness | 28/1 |
| 04 May 24+9d | Punchestown | 33rd Running Of The 'Have The Conversation - Say Yes To Organ Donation' Punchestown Charity Race | 2/22 | ¾ | 12-0 | — | — | 88A | — | 16/1 |
| 25 Apr 24+68d | Wexford | Wexford Veterans Handicap Chase | 5/6 | ½ | 11-7 | 128 | — | 123B | Phillip Enright | 9/1 |
| 17 Feb 24+20d | Gowran Park | Full Circle Series At Punchestown Festival 2024 Qualifier Handicap Hurdle | PU/19 | — | 11-4 | 114 | — | — | Phillip Enright | 12/1 |
| 28 Jan 24+31d | Naas | Full Circle Series At Punchestown Festival 2024 Qualifier Handicap Hurdle | 5/14 | 1½ | 11-3 | 114 | 78B | 125A | Phillip Enright | 16/1 |
| 28 Dec 23+32d | Limerick | Campion Insurance Tim Duggan Memorial Handicap Chase (0-150) (Listed) | F/12 | — | 11-5 | 130 | — | — | Phillip Enright | 18/1 |
| 26 Nov 23+28d | Cork | Cork Welcomes Racing TV Members Handicap Hurdle | 2/12 | ½ | 11-0 | 110 | 106A | 133A | Phillip Enright | 13/2 |
| 29 Oct 23+28d | Galway | Race In Pink Handicap Hurdle | 11/15 | 1 | 11-0 | 112 | — | 101A | Ryan Treacy | 50/1 |
| 01 Oct 23+60d | Tipperary | Racing Tv Handicap Hurdle | 10/12 | 20 | 10-12 | 114 | 25C | 88C | Ryan Treacy | 18/1 |
| 02 Aug 23+98d | Galway | Tote Always SP Or Better At Galway Handicap Hurdle | 16/20 | 2½ | 11-5 | 115 | 108C | 97C | Phillip Enright | 40/1 |
| 26 Apr 23+26d | Punchestown | Adare Manor Opportunity Series Final Handicap Hurdle (95-123) | 5/25 | ½ | 11-3 | 114 | 91B | 126A | Daniel King | 10/1 |
| 31 Mar 23+20d | Wexford | Arctic Tack Stud Veterans Handicap Chase | 3/7 | nk | 11-0 | 131 | 53A | 131B | Phillip Enright | 7/1 |
| 11 Mar 23+56d | Gowran Park | Holden Plant Rentals Shamrock Handicap Chase (Grade B) | F/10 | — | 11-1 | 131 | — | — | Michael O'Sullivan | 8/1 |
| 14 Jan 23+24d | Fairyhouse | Dan & Joan Moore Memorial Handicap Chase (Grade A) | 6/11 | 9 | 10-0 | 131 | 109B | 108A | Phillip Enright | 15/2 |
| 21 Dec 22+31d | Fairyhouse | Tote Always SP Or Better Handicap Chase | 1/7 | 11-5 | 120 | — | 142A | Phillip Enright | 11/2 | |
| 20 Nov 22+216d | Cork | Kevin McManus Bookmaker Handicap Chase | 1/8 | 10-2 | 115 | 58B | 128A | Phillip Enright | 5/1 | |
| 18 Apr 22+32d | Fairyhouse | beautybasket.ie Handicap Chase | PU/14 | — | 10-9 | 115 | — | — | Phillip Enright | 17/2 |
| 17 Mar 22+26d | Down Royal | Follow On Instagram At bluegrasshorsefeed Rated Novice Chase | 2/7 | 3¼ | 11-3 | 114 | 84A | 120A | Phillip Enright | 2/1J |
| 19 Feb 22+52d | Gowran Park | Tote Jackpot Is Back Handicap Hurdle | 6/19 | 7½ | 11-6 | 115 | 69C | 109C | Phillip Enright | 16/1 |
| 29 Dec 21+27d | Limerick | Greenmount Equine Hospital Rated Novice Hurdle | 1/11 | 10-11 | 105 | 173B | 137A | Jack Foley | 11/2 | |
| 02 Dec 21+26d | Clonmel | Next Meeting Thursday January 6th Novice Handicap Chase | 2/10 | 12 | 10-13 | 112 | 41A | 119A | Phillip Enright | 7/1 |
| 06 Nov 21+27d | Naas | Cavan Developments Home Builders Supporting St. Mary's GAA Novice Handicap Chase (0-116) | 2/13 | 7½ | 11-3 | 110 | 90B | 116A | Jack Foley | 9/2J |
| 10 Oct 21+139d | Limerick | Follow Limerick Racecourse On Instagram Handicap Chase (0-109) | 1/12 | 10-13 | 101 | 84A | 119A | Jack Foley | 4/1 | |
| 24 May 21+20d | Ballinrobe | Tim Kelly Group Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 1/14 | 11-11 | 96 | 87B | 128A | Phillip Enright | 3/1F | |
| 04 May 21+129d | Ballinrobe | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 5/14 | hd | 11-7 | 95 | 117B | 115A | Danny Hand | 12/1 |
| 26 Dec 20+21d | Limerick | Mr. Binman Handicap Chase | 3/12 | 1½ | 11-2 | 99 | 97A | 114B | Phillip Enright | 9/2 |
| 05 Dec 20+13d | Navan | John Lynch Carpets Beginners Chase | 8/12 | nse | 12-0 | — | 38C | 115C | Phillip Enright | 200/1 |
| 22 Nov 20+28d | Cork | I.N.H. Stallion Owners EBF Beginners Chase | 10/14 | 5½ | 12-0 | — | 44C | 102C | Phillip Enright | 66/1 |
| 25 Oct 20+215d | Wexford | Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Beginners Chase | F/11 | — | 12-0 | — | — | — | Phillip Enright | 40/1 |
| 24 Mar 20+17d | Clonmel | Play Lotto On The BoyleSports App Maiden Hurdle | 11/16 | shd | 12-0 | — | 26C | 101C | Phillip Enright | 15/2 |
| 07 Mar 20+14d | Gowran Park | MansionBet Get Paid As A Winner If 2nd In The Supreme Novices' At Cheltenham Maiden Hurdle | 5/13 | 10 | 11-12 | — | 92C | 103C | Phillip Enright | 20/1 |
| 22 Feb 20+91d | Fairyhouse | Connolly's RED MILLS Irish EBF Auction Maiden Hurdle | 9/13 | 1¾ | 11-8 | — | 77B | 94A | Phillip Enright | 7/1 |
| 23 Nov 19 | Gowran Park | I.N.H. Stallion Owners EBF Maiden Hurdle | 6/14 | 16 | 11-12 | — | 65C | 104C | Phillip Enright | 33/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Big Debates (FR) won?
- Big Debates (FR) won 7 of 44 archived starts between 2019 and 2025, a strike rate of 15.9%. Placed 15 times in total (34.1% of starts).
- Who trains Big Debates (FR)?
- Big Debates (FR) is trained by Robert Tyner, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 2 November 2025.
- Who is Big Debates (FR)'s sire?
- Big Debates (FR) is by Sholokhov (IRE) out of Morbidezza (GER), whose sire is Lecroix.
- What going does Big Debates (FR) prefer?
- Big Debates (FR) has the best record on soft going: 5 wins from 20 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Big Debates (FR)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 120, from the run on 2 November 2025. The highest on record is 131.
- What is Big Debates (FR)'s sire's record?
- Sholokhov (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.5% of 4,256 runs since Jan 2008 (419 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 8.9% from 157.
- Who are Big Debates (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Morbidezza (GER), Big Debates (FR) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Maison De Ville (GER) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Maison De Ville (GER)). The wins came over 2m3f–2m4½f. As at Oct 2026.