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Horse profile

Cannot Give (USA)

7yo mare (at last run, Sep 2012) · Last trainer Patrick Tallis · Last owner Patrick Tallis
by Proud Citizen (USA) out of September Kaper (USA) (Peterhof)
25 runs · 16 courses · from Jul 2008
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Sep 2012 — 5,158 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2012 · 12th of 15 2 wins · Killarney & Roscommon Last raced off OR 47
KTB Profile

Cannot Give (USA) is 2 from 25. Hasn't won since Aug 2010. Each win came on a first visit to the course. Last raced off 47, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 25 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 18lb off peak

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Cannot Give (USA) has 2 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins Diamond Haze (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Diamond Haze (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Diamond Haze (IRE)2827f–1mClass 5
Tough And Fast (IRE)30——
Official rating47↓ 18lb off peak
47 47–65

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 58A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cork, 5 Aug 2012 Official rating 47 at the last flat run, 5 Sep 2012

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 90C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Thurles, 4 Nov 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 22 figures · best 78A · median 56.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft778A60—
Good to Soft565A54—
Good to Firm474A60—
Heavy359A58—
Good362C46—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f1178A59—
1m – 1m1f559A46—
1m5f – 2m474A60.5—
6f – 7f250A47.5—
Jumps 3 figures · best 90C · median 82
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Heavy1———
Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m282C79—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 25 figures from 25 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Proud Citizen (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 723 runs since Jan 2008 (61 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%+1.7—
Good to Firm150106.7%−1.61 from 4
Good131107.6%−0.70 from 4
Good to Soft6746%−2.30 from 5
Soft6046.7%−1.61 from 8
Heavy1915.3%−30 from 4
Standard (AW)2863010.5%+2.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f22313.6%+5.3—
6f – 7f320206.3%−20 from 2
1m – 1m1f2032110.3%+20 from 5
1m2f – 1m4f10487.7%−0.61 from 11
1m5f – 2m45613.3%+51 from 6
2m1f – 2m4f20210%+1.70 from 1
2m5f – 3m900%−8.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
September Kaper (USA) (Peterhof)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 8 1 13% +7.00
Good to Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 4 1 25% +7.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Gowran Park 6 0 0% −6.00
Cork 3 0 0% −3.00
Tipperary 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 1 100% +14.00
Roscommon 1 1 100% +10.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 11 1 9% +0.00
1m5f – 2m 6 1 17% +9.00
1m – 1m1f 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Seamie Heffernan 11 1 9% +4.00
Eddie Power 3 0 0% −3.00
Sean Levey 2 1 50% +9.00
Joseph O'Brien 2 0 0% −2.00
Ben Curtis 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor Hoban 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Sam James 1 0 0% −1.00
Rory Cleary 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Gorey 1 0 0% −1.00
Fran Berry 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 6 0 0% −6.00
2011 2 0 0% −2.00
2010 9 2 22% +17.00
2009 4 0 0% −4.00
2008 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 22 2 9% +4.00
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
05 Sep 12+23d Gowran Park Goresbridge Handicap (47-65) (Div 1) 12f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 12/15 ½ 8-10 4742C Ben Curtis 22/1
13 Aug 12+8d Ballinrobe Irish Jockeys Association Handicap (47-65) 14f · Yielding · 14 ran 8/14 hd 8-7 4745C Conor Hoban 20/1
05 Aug 12+12d Cork 'Tote Trifecta Rollover' Handicap (47-65) (Div 1) 12f · Soft To Heavy · 11 ran 6/11 2½ 8-11 4858A Seamie Heffernan 14/1
24 Jul 12+48d Tipperary Dundrum House Hotel Golf & Leisure Resort Handicap (47-65) 12.5f · Soft To Heavy · 12 ran 4/12 12 9-0 5159A Seamie Heffernan 20/1
06 Jun 12+20d Fairyhouse Ratoath Handicap (47-65) (Div 1) 10f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran 10/18 4¾ 9-2 5355C Seamie Heffernan 33/1
17 May 12+278d Gowran Park Goresbridge Apprentice Handicap (47-65) 9.5f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 13/17 1½ 8-11 5545C Joe Doyle 25/1
13 Aug 11+28d Tramore Summerhill Shopping Centre, Tramore Handicap (47-65) 14f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 11/11 4 10-0 6561C Seamie Heffernan 20/1
16 Jul 11+238d Curragh Liam Browne Lifetime Achievement In Racing Handicap (50-75) 12f · Good · 8 ran 7/8 8 9-8 6562C Seamie Heffernan 12/1
20 Nov 10+16d Gowran Park Bennettsbridge Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 19 ran 16/19 3½ 11-4 —82C Eddie Power 50/1
04 Nov 10+14d Thurles Cashel Maiden Hurdle 18f · Soft · 18 ran 14/18 hd 11-4 —90C Eddie Power 50/1
21 Oct 10+58d Thurles Premier County Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 18 ran 9/18 8 11-4 —76C Eddie Power 20/1
24 Aug 10+4d Sligo September 30th At Sligo Handicap (47-65) 12f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 4/15 1½ 9-11 5776A Seamie Heffernan 5/1J
20 Aug 10+9d Killarney Ross Golf Club/Killarney Racegoers Club Handicap (50-70) 14f · Yielding · 12 ran 1/12 9-1 5774A Seamie Heffernan 14/1
11 Aug 10+10d Gowran Park Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (50-70) 9.5f · Good · 12 ran 10/12 5½ 9-0 5846C Sam James 20/1
01 Aug 10+49d Cork 'tote Trifecta Rollover' Handicap (47-65) 12f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran 8/18 2½ 9-8 5965A Seamie Heffernan 8/1
13 Jun 10+31d Roscommon Roscommon Herald Handicap (47-60) 12f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 1/15 8-13 5074A Sean Levey 10/1
13 May 10+283d Gowran Park Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-60) 9.5f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 8/17 1½ 9-4 5059A Sean Levey 9/1
03 Aug 09+10d Cork Newmarket Handicap (47-65) 12f · Soft · 17 ran 9/17 1 9-2 5355C Rory Cleary 10/1
24 Jul 09+5d Wexford Belmont Handicap (47-65) 14f · Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 2½ 8-10 5360A Joseph O'Brien 14/1
19 Jul 09+30d Fairyhouse (IRE) Porterstown Handicap 10f · Soft · 17 ran 2/17 ¾ 8-11 4878A Seamie Heffernan 14/1
19 Jun 09+245d Limerick Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-65) 11.5f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 9/14 nk 8-7 4852A Joseph O'Brien 14/1
17 Oct 08+72d Tipperary Limerick Junction Handicap (45-60) (Div 2) 7.5f · Heavy · 14 ran 6/14 nk 9-7 5550A Seamie Heffernan 6/1
06 Aug 08+17d Gowran Park Most Stylish Racegoer At Gowran Park Maiden 8f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 9/15 1 9-0 5554A Seamie Heffernan 50/1
20 Jul 08+11d Tipperary (IRE) Dan Dooley Ford Motor Centre Maiden 9f · Good · 12 ran 7/12 1 8-11 —46C Shane Gorey 50/1
09 Jul 08 Naas Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden 7f · Yielding · 16 ran 10/16 1¼ 9-0 5245A Fran Berry 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Cannot Give (USA) won?
Cannot Give (USA) won 2 of 25 archived starts between 2008 and 2012, a strike rate of 8%. Placed 3 times in total (12% of starts).
Who trained Cannot Give (USA)?
Cannot Give (USA) was trained by Patrick Tallis on the most recent run on record, at Gowran Park on 5 September 2012.
Who is Cannot Give (USA)'s sire?
Cannot Give (USA) is by Proud Citizen (USA) out of September Kaper (USA), whose sire is Peterhof.
What going does Cannot Give (USA) prefer?
Cannot Give (USA) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Cannot Give (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 47, from the run on 5 September 2012. The highest on record is 65.
What is Cannot Give (USA)'s sire's record?
Proud Citizen (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 723 runs since Jan 2008 (61 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Has Cannot Give (USA) produced winners?
As a dam, Cannot Give (USA) has 2 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Diamond Haze (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Diamond Haze (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.