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Horse profile

Dadsintrouble (IRE)

11yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2021) · Last trainer Tim Vaughan · Last owner Paul Bowtell
by Presenting (GB) out of Gemini Lucy (IRE) (Glacial Storm)
25 runs · 19 courses · from Dec 2014
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Feb 2021 — 2,083 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2021 · 3rd of 11 3 wins · Haydock & Wincanton Last raced off OR 123
KTB Profile

Dadsintrouble (IRE) is 3 from 25. Hasn't won since Feb 2017. Last raced off 123, 14lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 25 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 14lb off peak
Official rating123↓ 14lb off peak
123 109–137

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 165 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Musselburgh, 26 Feb 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 13 figures · best 165B · median 115
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft6165B109—
Good3130B95—
Heavy2116A109—
Good to Soft2128A126.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m9165B115—
Over 3m3125B116—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 19 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: did not complete (4) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 19 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 131A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Haydock, 19 Dec 2020 Official rating 123 at the last run, 5 Feb 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 21 figures · best 136A · median 118
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft7136A118—
Good5136A110—
Good to Soft4133A118.5—
Heavy3131A122—
Good to Firm2126B116.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m12136A117—
Over 3m4131A124—
1m5f – 2m3130A110—
2m1f – 2m4f2125A113—

Of 25 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 25 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,049 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.80 from 2
Good7,02284012%+10 from 7
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.81 from 5
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.82 from 8
Heavy2,7592749.9%−1.10 from 3
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.11 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6,69672210.8%−0.20 from 2
2m5f – 3m6,53774211.4%+0.42 from 16
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.60 from 4

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Gemini Lucy (IRE) (Glacial Storm)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Psychedelic Rock (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Psychedelic Rock (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Psychedelic Rock (GB)3372m–3mClass 2
Earl Of Desmond (GB)120——
Dadsinluck (GB)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 8 2 25% +18.50
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Soft 5 1 20% +2.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 8 1 13% −2.50
Class 2 6 1 17% +1.00
Class 4 5 1 20% +16.00
Class 1 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 3 2 67% +9.50
Cheltenham 3 0 0% −3.00
Market Rasen 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 1 100% +20.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 16 2 13% −3.50
Over 3m 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 3 1 33% +18.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Alan Johns 16 3 19% +17.50
Michael Byrne 3 0 0% −3.00
Charlie Price 2 0 0% −2.00
Richard Johnson 2 0 0% −2.00
A P Heskin 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Cobden 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 22 3 14% +11.50
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 1 0 0% −1.00
2020 5 0 0% −5.00
2019 2 0 0% −2.00
2018 4 0 0% −4.00
2017 6 2 33% +6.50
2016 3 1 33% +18.00
2015 3 0 0% −3.00
2014 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 21 3 14% +12.50
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
05 Feb 21+48d Catterick kingmakerracedays.co.uk Celebrate Mary Harle's 101st Birthday Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 25.5f · Heavy · 11 ran 3/11 8½ 11-5 123116A122A Charlie Price 10/1
19 Dec 20+30d Haydock Listen To Paul Nicholls On Betting.Betfair Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 24.5f · Heavy · 9 ran 3/9 1¾ 11-2 123102C131A Alan Johns 14/1
19 Nov 20+37d Market Rasen Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 23f · Good · 9 ran UR/9 — 10-4 123—— A P Heskin 20/1
13 Oct 20+230d Hereford Life Is Tough, But So Are You Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 25.5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 2/7 20 11-8 124—126B Alan Johns 16/1
26 Feb 20+18d Musselburgh Meetings That Matter On Racing TV Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 11 ran 2/11 2 11-9 121165B136A Charlie Price 6/1
08 Feb 20+79d Warwick Larkshill Engineering Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 26f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 2 11-12 121125B131A Alan Johns 25/1
21 Nov 19+48d Market Rasen Pertemps Network Group Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 23f · Soft · 9 ran 6/9 ¾ 11-2 124115A116A Alan Johns 25/1
04 Oct 19+526d Fontwell James Todd & Co Ltd Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 26f · Good · 4 ran 4/4 ¾ 11-9 12787C109B Richard Johnson 3/1
26 Apr 18+42d Punchestown Alanna Homes Handicap Hurdle (grade B) 24f · Yielding To Soft · 25 ran 18/25 2 11-2 132122C110C Alan Johns 33/1
15 Mar 18+32d Cheltenham Pertemps Network Final Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 24f · Soft · 23 ran 22/23 29 10-7 13679C105C Alan Johns 40/1
11 Feb 18+22d Exeter Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 23f · Heavy · 8 ran 5/8 ¾ 11-10 137—109B Alan Johns 12/1
20 Jan 18+31d Taunton Bathwick Tyres Yeovil Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 3 · 23f · Soft · 4 ran UR/4 — 11-6 133—— Alan Johns 10/3
20 Dec 17+82d Newbury St. James's Place Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 3 · 23.5f · Soft · 7 ran 4/7 11 12-1 13778C118C Alan Johns 12/1
29 Sep 17+174d Worcester R&A Masons Heating & Electrical Novices' Chase Class 4 · 23f · Good To Soft · 7 ran F/7 — 10-12 137—— Alan Johns 7/1
08 Apr 17+22d Aintree Gaskells Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 24.5f · Good · 22 ran 3/22 ¾ 10-8 136130B136A Alan Johns 16/1
17 Mar 17+27d Cheltenham Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 20.5f · Good · 23 ran 9/23 1¼ 11-1 13695B125A Harry Cobden 14/1
18 Feb 17+28d Haydock Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle (Series Qualifier) Class 2 · 23f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 11-2 129128A133A Alan Johns 6/1
21 Jan 17+92d Haydock Peover Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 23f · Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-0 117103A121A Alan Johns 9/2
21 Oct 16+169d Cheltenham Join The Jockey Club Ownership Syndicate Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 21f · Good · 16 ran F/16 — 10-0 117—— Alan Johns 10/1
05 May 16+31d Newton Abbot attheraces.com Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 21.5f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 3/12 1¾ 9-9 117—107A Alan Johns 16/1
04 Apr 16+327d Wincanton ApolloBet Best Odds Guaranteed Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-1 109—130A Alan Johns 20/1
13 May 15+9d Kempton Racing Uk Anywhere 'national Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 6 11-0 ——110A Michael Byrne 14/1
04 May 15+82d Kempton Betdaq.com Serious About Horses Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 1¾ 10-12 ——98C Richard Johnson 12/1
11 Feb 15+47d Chepstow Truvape Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 5/12 37 11-4 ——101C Michael Byrne 66/1
26 Dec 14 Huntingdon Boongate Kia Motability Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 4/6 9 11-0 ——106B Michael Byrne 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dadsintrouble (IRE) won?
Dadsintrouble (IRE) won 3 of 25 archived starts between 2014 and 2021, a strike rate of 12%. Placed 9 times in total (36% of starts).
Who trained Dadsintrouble (IRE)?
Dadsintrouble (IRE) was trained by Tim Vaughan on the most recent run on record, at Catterick on 5 February 2021.
Who is Dadsintrouble (IRE)'s sire?
Dadsintrouble (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Gemini Lucy (IRE), whose sire is Glacial Storm.
What going does Dadsintrouble (IRE) prefer?
Dadsintrouble (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Dadsintrouble (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 123, from the run on 5 February 2021. The highest on record is 137.
What is Dadsintrouble (IRE)'s sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,049 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Dadsintrouble (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Gemini Lucy (IRE), Dadsintrouble (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Psychedelic Rock (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Psychedelic Rock (GB)). The wins came over 2m–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.