Debating Society (IRE)
Debating Society (IRE) is 2 from 9. Hasn't won since Sep 2012. Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 4 on softer). Each win came on a first visit to the course. Last raced off a career-high mark of 86.
- 2–9Wins / Runs
- 22.2%Strike rate
- 5 (55.6%)Placed
- −1.25£1 level staken=9 at SP
- 1.29Fair A/E n=9 · 1.11 incl. margin
- 86Highest OR
- 52dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 20,817 runs since Jan 2008 (1,573 horses).
Strongest on firm going: 16.1% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.8% from 843.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 161 | 26 | 16.1% | +4.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 3,581 | 463 | 12.9% | +1 | 1 from 1 |
| Good | 4,529 | 487 | 10.8% | −1.1 | 1 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 2,132 | 254 | 11.9% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 2,758 | 303 | 11% | −0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 790 | 76 | 9.6% | −2.3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 6,865 | 866 | 12.6% | +0.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 3,049 | 399 | 13.1% | +1.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 9,828 | 1,178 | 12% | +0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4,502 | 542 | 12% | +0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,139 | 249 | 11.6% | −0.3 | 2 from 5 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 843 | 66 | 7.8% | −4.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 360 | 33 | 9.2% | −2.7 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 89 | 8 | 9% | −2.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 7 | 1 | 14.3% | +2.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 20 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
11 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Eleanora Duse (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Eleanora Duse (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Eleanora Duse (IRE) | 13 | 3 | 1m–1m2f | Group 2 |
| Scottish Stage (IRE) | 7 | 2 | 7f–1m2f | Listed |
| Centred (IRE) | 8 | 2 | 1m2f–1m4f | Class 3 |
| Voice Coach (IRE) | 5 | 1 | 1m2f | Class 5 |
| Namibian Orator (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 1m2f | Class 5 |
| Sterling Work (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Counterweight (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Narrative (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Juvenile Lead (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Built For This (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Highland Diva (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.75 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.00 |
| Class 4 | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.75 |
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sandown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Yarmouth | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Lingfield | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.75 |
| Epsom Downs | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 5 | 2 | 40% | +2.75 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryan Moore | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Kieren Fallon | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.75 |
| Richard Mullen | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Neil Callan | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Pat Dobbs | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 7 | 2 | 29% | +0.75 |
| 2011 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Debating Society (IRE) won?
- Debating Society (IRE) won 2 of 9 archived starts between 2011 and 2012, a strike rate of 22.2%. Placed 5 times in total (55.6% of starts).
- Who trained Debating Society (IRE)?
- Debating Society (IRE) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute on the most recent run on record, at Warwick on 4 October 2012.
- Who is Debating Society (IRE)'s sire?
- Debating Society (IRE) is by Invincible Spirit (IRE) out of Drama Class (IRE), whose sire is Caerleon.
- What going does Debating Society (IRE) prefer?
- Debating Society (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Debating Society (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 86, from the run on 4 October 2012. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Debating Society (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Invincible Spirit (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 20,817 runs since Jan 2008 (1,573 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 16.1% from 161. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.8% from 843.
- Who are Debating Society (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Drama Class (IRE), Debating Society (IRE) has 11 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Eleanora Duse (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Eleanora Duse (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.