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Horse profile

Defies Logic (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2008) · Last trainer James Given · Last owner J Ellis
by Domedriver (IRE) out of Khandahar (GB) (Zamindar)
10 runs · 9 courses · from Sep 2007
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 11 Sep 2008 — 6,620 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2008 · 12th of 14 Last raced off OR 55
KTB Profile

Defies Logic (GB) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 16 at Thirsk (May 2008). Last raced off a career-high mark of 55.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating55At career-high mark
55 52–55

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 58A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ripon, 30 Aug 2008 Official rating 55 at the last run, 11 Sep 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 10 figures · best 65A · median 55.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Firm459A48—
Good365A61—
Standard (AW)1———
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f559A57—
1m – 1m1f365A54—
6f – 7f261A53—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Domedriver (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 975 runs since Jan 2008 (94 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm800%−9.7—
Good to Firm1141210.5%+0.80 from 4
Good2242310.3%+0.60 from 3
Good to Soft11187.2%−2.50 from 1
Soft1972412.2%+2.50 from 1
Heavy841113.1%+3.4—
Standard (AW)234166.8%−2.90 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1317.7%−2—
6f – 7f145149.7%00 from 2
1m – 1m1f201168%−1.70 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f3123310.6%+0.90 from 5
1m5f – 2m1361712.5%+2.8—
2m1f – 2m4f123118.9%−0.8—
2m5f – 3m3937.7%−2—
Over 3m600%−9.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Khandahar (GB) (Zamindar)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Thirsk 2 0 0% −2.00
Chelmsford (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Ripon 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Queally 4 0 0% −4.00
Royston Ffrench 1 0 0% −1.00
Rosie Jessop 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Fanning 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Mulrennan 1 0 0% −1.00
James Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Dale Gibson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 8 0 0% −8.00
2007 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 8 runs
11 Sep 08+12d Chelmsford (AW) Waltham Abbey Classified Stakes Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 4 8-11 5543C Tom Queally 9/1
30 Aug 08+24d Ripon trainermagazine.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good · 13 ran 6/13 ½ 9-3 5558A Royston Ffrench 16/1
06 Aug 08+13d Newcastle USG Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 ½ 8-11 5357A Rosie Jessop 7/2F
24 Jul 08+9d Doncaster Urban-I First Time Buyer Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 5/12 1¼ 8-5 5459A Joe Fanning 16/1
15 Jul 08+35d Beverley Ceruttis at Beverley Racecourse Handicap Class 6 · 7.5f · Good · 12 ran 4/12 ¾ 8-12 5461A Paul Mulrennan 10/1
10 Jun 08+24d Redcar Go Racing In Yorkshire Summer Festival Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 12/14 2¼ 9-0 5543A Tom Queally 9/4F
17 May 08+24d Thirsk Sands End Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 nk 8-5 5265A James Doyle 25/1
23 Apr 08+209d Nottingham intercasino.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 10/14 ½ 8-12 5254C Tom Queally 100/1
2007 · 2 runs
27 Sep 07+19d Pontefract E.B.F. Frier Wood Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 8f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 10/10 10 9-3 —51C Tom Queally 40/1
08 Sep 07 Thirsk Scarborough Castle Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 5/8 1¼ 8-13 —45C Dale Gibson 13/2

Quick answers

How many races has Defies Logic won?
Defies Logic (GB) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts between 2007 and 2008. Placed 1 time in total (10% of starts).
Who trained Defies Logic?
Defies Logic (GB) was trained by James Given on the most recent run on record, at Chelmsford (AW) on 11 September 2008.
Who is Defies Logic's sire?
Defies Logic (GB) is by Domedriver (IRE) out of Khandahar (GB), whose sire is Zamindar.
What is Defies Logic's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 55, from the run on 11 September 2008. That is also the highest on record.
What is Defies Logic's sire's record?
Domedriver (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 975 runs since Jan 2008 (94 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from September 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.