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Horse profile

Don't Need To Know (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2022) · Last trainer R Mike Smith · Last owner Rms Racing
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Phardester (IRE) (Phardante)
16 runs · 8 courses · from Mar 2020
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Jan 2022 — 1,745 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2022 · 3rd of 9 Last raced off OR 88
KTB Profile

Don't Need To Know (IRE) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed 6 times. Best effort: 2nd of 9 at Newcastle (Mar 2021). Last raced off 88, 15lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 15lb off peak
Official rating88↓ 15lb off peak
88 88–103

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 63 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Ayr, 29 Nov 2021

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 115B · median 74
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Soft476C56.5—
Good3115B84—
Soft274A59.5—
Heavy280C72.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f681A64—
1m5f – 2m484A78—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 16 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (5).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 16 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 107A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 16 Jan 2022 Official rating 88 at the last run, 16 Jan 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 15 figures · best 125A · median 104
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good to Soft5113A97—
Heavy4109A96.5—
Good4125A108.5—
Soft2113B101.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f8113A100.5—
1m5f – 2m4104A95—
2m5f – 3m3125A113—

Of 16 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.8—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.2—
Good4,05344110.9%−0.90 from 4
Good to Soft2,93235412.1%+0.30 from 5
Soft5,87675112.8%+10 from 2
Heavy3,81744911.8%00 from 5
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.8—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.8—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.40 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f6,08072411.9%+0.10 from 9
2m5f – 3m5,25762211.8%00 from 3
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Phardester (IRE) (Phardante)

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Robinsfirth (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 1m7½f–3m4½f; the highest grade won is Grade 3 (Robinsfirth (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Robinsfirth (IRE)1451m7½f–3m4½fGrade 3
The Rory Story (IRE)1122m–2m3f—
Glacial Promise (IRE)1622m3f–2m4f—
Barrie Burn (IRE)912m4½fClass 4
Tiffiny Gale (IRE)120——
Kings Promise (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 11 0 0% −11.00
Class 4 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kelso 3 0 0% −3.00
Carlisle 3 0 0% −3.00
Ayr 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 2 0 0% −2.00
Perth 2 0 0% −2.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 9 0 0% −9.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ryan Mania 8 0 0% −8.00
William Shanahan 6 0 0% −6.00
Derek Fox 1 0 0% −1.00
Dale Irving 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 12 0 0% −12.00
None 4 0 0% −4.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2022 1 0 0% −1.00
2021 6 0 0% −6.00
2020 9 0 0% −9.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 12 0 0% −12.00
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2022 · 1 run
16 Jan 22+35d Kelso Kelso Annual Members Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 3/9 nse 10-13 88—107A William Shanahan 5/1
2021 · 6 runs
12 Dec 21+13d Carlisle Pertemps Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 ½ 10-8 9245A90A William Shanahan 11/1
29 Nov 21+25d Ayr Visit racingtv.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 8/10 1 10-9 9563B88A William Shanahan 10/1
04 Nov 21+229d Sedgefield Circular Economy Solutions By RPS Desani Handicap Chase Class 5 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 10/11 14 11-11 9828C97C Ryan Mania 12/1
20 Mar 21+9d Newcastle QuinnBet Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 ½ 10-11 9550A113A Derek Fox 4/1
11 Mar 21+34d Carlisle Every Race Live On Racing TV Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 10 ran 6/10 3¾ 10-3 98—89A William Shanahan 13/2
05 Feb 21+39d Catterick Racingtv.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 19f · Heavy · 11 ran 4/11 1 11-7 10065A109A Ryan Mania 13/2
2020 · 9 runs
28 Dec 20+19d Catterick SkyBet Britain's Most Popular Online Bookmaker Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 19f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 nk 11-5 9974A113B William Shanahan 7/1
09 Dec 20+9d Hexham Happy 60th Birthday Jane Akerman Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20f · Heavy · 7 ran 4/7 25 11-2 102—81C William Shanahan 7/1
30 Nov 20+17d Ayr William Hill Racing Radio Handicap Chase Class 5 · 20.5f · Heavy · 12 ran UR/12 — 11-9 102—— Ryan Mania 9/2
13 Nov 20+20d Newcastle QuinnBet Live Casino Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 23.5f · Good · 11 ran 3/11 2½ 11-12 102—113A Ryan Mania 9/4F
24 Oct 20+9d Kelso Clifford & Martin Firth Memorial Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 23.5f · Good · 13 ran 2/13 1¾ 11-6 99115B125A Ryan Mania 11/1
15 Oct 20+46d Carlisle Join Racing TV Now Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 17f · Good · 12 ran 6/12 2¼ 11-1 10381A104A Ryan Mania 22/1
30 Aug 20+40d Perth bet365 Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 4/9 1¾ 10-9 —76C90C Dale Irving 14/1
21 Jul 20+127d Perth Congratulations Brian Hughes Champion Jockey Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 16f · Good · 11 ran 5/11 2¼ 11-0 —84A100A Ryan Mania 11/1
16 Mar 20 Kelso William Hill Leading Racecourse Bookmaker Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 9 ran 3/9 11 11-0 —80C104A Ryan Mania 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Don't Need To Know won?
Don't Need To Know (IRE) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2020 and 2022. Placed 6 times in total (37.5% of starts).
Who trained Don't Need To Know?
Don't Need To Know (IRE) was trained by R Mike Smith on the most recent run on record, at Kelso on 16 January 2022.
Who is Don't Need To Know's sire?
Don't Need To Know (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Phardester (IRE), whose sire is Phardante.
What is Don't Need To Know's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 16 January 2022. The highest on record is 103.
What is Don't Need To Know's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,280 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Don't Need To Know's siblings?
Out of Phardester (IRE), Don't Need To Know (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Robinsfirth (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Grade 3 (Robinsfirth (IRE)). The wins came over 1m7½f–3m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.