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Dont Tell Val (GB)

5yo mare (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer Fergal O'Brien · Last owner Dont Tell The Missus Partnership
by Midnight Legend (GB) out of Tentsmuir (GB) (Arctic Lord)
7 runs · 7 courses · from May 2016
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jul 2017 — 3,408 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 Won at Fontwell Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Dont Tell Val (GB) is 1 from 7, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Oct 2016.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 6

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Dont Tell Val (GB) has 3 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Sammy's Guarantee (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m½f–2m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Sammy's Guarantee (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sammy's Guarantee (GB)812m½fClass 4
Briefly (GB)1112m3½fClass 4
Poppieholla (GB)20——

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 112 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Cartmel, 31 May 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 121A · median 93
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good293C90.5—
Good to Soft2121A116.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f3121A93—
2m5f – 3m1———
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 6 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 112A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cartmel, 31 May 2017 Official rating 105 at the last run, 6 Jul 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 112A · median 97.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good390B86—
Good to Soft2112A111—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f3110A90—
1m5f – 2m2105A91.5—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 7 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Midnight Legend (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 8,311 runs since Jan 2008 (494 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1417.1%−7.1—
Good to Firm4045814.4%+0.2—
Good3,12646214.8%+0.60 from 4
Good to Soft1,89725913.7%−0.51 from 2
Soft1,97726013.2%−10 from 1
Heavy76611815.4%+1.2—
Standard (AW)1271915%+0.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−14.2—
1m – 1m1f600%−14.2—
1m2f – 1m4f1021615.7%+1.5—
1m5f – 2m2,20529913.6%−0.60 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f2,70738114.1%−0.11 from 3
2m5f – 3m2,49936314.5%+0.30 from 2
Over 3m79111814.9%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tentsmuir (GB) (Arctic Lord)

5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Thomas Brown (GB) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Thomas Brown (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Thomas Brown (GB)2272m½f–3mClass 2
I Had Your Man (GB)70——
Me And Julio (GB)10——
Sharaboe (GB)30——
The Enemy Within (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Soft 2 1 50% +19.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +20.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 1 100% +20.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 3 1 33% +18.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paddy Brennan 6 1 17% +15.00
James Davies 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 5 0 0% −5.00
None 2 1 50% +19.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 5 0 0% −5.00
2016 2 1 50% +19.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00
NH Flat 3 1 33% +18.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 5 runs
06 Jul 17+23d Perth Perth On-Course Rails Bookmakers Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 3m · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-12 105—— Paddy Brennan 10/1
13 Jun 17+13d Southwell Bloomfields Horse Boxes Mares' Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good · 6 ran 3/6 ½ 11-0 10588B90B Paddy Brennan 13/8
31 May 17+33d Cartmel Hadwins Motor Group Mares' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m6f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 2/14 6 11-0 —112B112A Paddy Brennan 5/2J
28 Apr 17+69d Huntingdon Extra Place Races At 188bet Mares' 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good · 3 ran 3/3 33 10-12 —93C86C Paddy Brennan 20/1
18 Feb 17+122d Ascot Neptune Investment Management Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 1m7½f · Soft · 8 ran 4/8 8 11-6 —79A105A Paddy Brennan 7/2
2016 · 2 runs
19 Oct 16+167d Fontwell British Stallion Studs EBF Mares' Intermediate Open NH Flat Race (Div 1) Class 6 · 2m1½f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 10-12 —121A110A Paddy Brennan 20/1
05 May 16 Uttoxeter Jonjo O'Neill Partnership Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race (Div 1) Class 5 · 2m · Good · 12 ran 11/12 18 10-8 ——78C James Davies 50/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dont Tell Val won?
Dont Tell Val (GB) won 1 of 7 archived starts between 2016 and 2017, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 2 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Dont Tell Val?
Dont Tell Val (GB) was trained by Fergal O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 6 July 2017.
Who is Dont Tell Val's sire?
Dont Tell Val (GB) is by Midnight Legend (GB) out of Tentsmuir (GB), whose sire is Arctic Lord.
What is Dont Tell Val's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 6 July 2017. That is also the highest on record.
What is Dont Tell Val's sire's record?
Midnight Legend (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.2% of 8,311 runs since Jan 2008 (494 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Dont Tell Val's siblings?
Out of Tentsmuir (GB), Dont Tell Val (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Thomas Brown (GB) (7). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Thomas Brown (GB)). The wins came over 2m½f–3m. As at Nov 2026.
Has Dont Tell Val produced winners?
As a dam, Dont Tell Val (GB) has 3 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Sammy's Guarantee (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Sammy's Guarantee (GB)). The wins came over 2m½f–2m3½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.