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Horse profile

Dontsayathing (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2012) · Last trainer Bob Buckler · Last owner D R Fear
by Sayarshan (FR) out of Executive Lass (IRE) (Executive Perk)
8 runs · 4 courses · from Dec 2008
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Jan 2012 — 5,402 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2012 Last raced off OR 90
KTB Profile

Dontsayathing (IRE) is yet to win from 8 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 12 at Exeter (Nov 2009). Last raced off 90, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating90↓ 9lb off peak
90 90–99

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 118A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Exeter, 20 Nov 2009 Official rating 90 at the last run, 12 Jan 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 118A · median 98
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Good3105A98—
Soft2118A103.5—
Good to Soft2117A102—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f4118A101.5—
1m5f – 2m2117A103—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 8 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Sayarshan (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 5.4% of 388 runs since Jan 2008 (51 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−5.4—
Good to Firm3013.3%−2.1—
Good135107.4%+20 from 3
Good to Soft3738.1%+2.70 from 2
Soft10543.8%−1.60 from 3
Heavy6834.4%−1—
Standard (AW)800%−5.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f600%−5.4—
1m – 1m1f300%−5.4—
1m2f – 1m4f200%−5.4—
1m5f – 2m9411.1%−4.30 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f14885.4%00 from 5
2m5f – 3m9877.1%+1.70 from 1
Over 3m37513.5%+8.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Executive Lass (IRE) (Executive Perk)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Oscars Ex (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Taunton 3 0 0% −3.00
Fontwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Exeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Harry Skelton 5 0 0% −5.00
Nathan Sweeney 1 0 0% −1.00
Ian Popham 1 0 0% −1.00
William Kennedy 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 6 0 0% −6.00
2008 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
12 Jan 12+783d Fontwell Docker Hughes Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 17.5f · Soft · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-3 90— Nathan Sweeney 6/1
2009 · 6 runs
20 Nov 09+44d Exeter Book Your Raceday Hospitality At Exeter Racecourse Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 ½ 10-13 92118A Harry Skelton 13/2
07 Oct 09+167d Exeter Bathwick Tyres Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 18.5f · Good · 11 ran 3/11 4 11-9 92105A Ian Popham 12/1
23 Apr 09+27d Fontwell 3663 Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 21.5f · Good · 11 ran 4/11 3¼ 10-9 9297A Harry Skelton 16/1
27 Mar 09+29d Ascot Value For Valour Maiden Hurdle Class 3 · 19.5f · Good · 6 ran 6/6 30 11-1 9998C William Kennedy 100/1
26 Feb 09+30d Taunton Horserace Betting Levy Board Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 19f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 9/13 8 10-12 9987C Harry Skelton 50/1
27 Jan 09+28d Taunton P.a.s. Sound & Communications Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class 5 · 16.5f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 20 10-13 —89C Harry Skelton 9/1
2008 · 1 run
30 Dec 08 Taunton Toteexacta Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 1½ 10-11 —117A Harry Skelton 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dontsayathing won?
Dontsayathing (IRE) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2008 and 2012. Placed 3 times in total (37.5% of starts).
Who trained Dontsayathing?
Dontsayathing (IRE) was trained by Bob Buckler on the most recent run on record, at Fontwell on 12 January 2012.
Who is Dontsayathing's sire?
Dontsayathing (IRE) is by Sayarshan (FR) out of Executive Lass (IRE), whose sire is Executive Perk.
What is Dontsayathing's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 12 January 2012. The highest on record is 99.
What is Dontsayathing's sire's record?
Sayarshan (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 5.4% of 388 runs since Jan 2008 (51 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Dontsayathing's siblings?
Out of Executive Lass (IRE), Dontsayathing (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.