Horse profile
Donttellmother (IRE)
by Carroll House (IRE) out of One Bid (IRE) (King Luthier)
33 runs · 17 courses · from Sep 2007
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 18 May 2013 — 4,918 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2013
2 wins · Galway & Sligo
New yard
KTB Profile
Donttellmother (IRE) is 2 from 33. Hasn't won since Aug 2009.
Based on 33 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 14lb off peak
- 2–33Wins / Runs
- 6.1%Strike rate
- 10 (30.3%)Placed
- −23.00£1 level staken=33 at SP
- 0.83Fair A/E n=33 · 0.61 incl. margin
- 105Highest OR
- 22dBetween runs (median)longest 805 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating91↓ 14lb off peak
91
90–105
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Carroll House (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 6.2% of 1,033 runs since Jan 2008 (133 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 1 | 7.7% | +1.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 113 | 7 | 6.2% | 0 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 293 | 15 | 5.1% | −1.1 | 0 from 10 |
| Good to Soft | 109 | 4 | 3.7% | −2.5 | 0 from 4 |
| Soft | 282 | 21 | 7.4% | +1.2 | 0 from 8 |
| Heavy | 218 | 16 | 7.3% | +1.1 | 2 from 9 |
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 0 | 0% | −6.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 10 | 1 | 10% | +3.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 236 | 14 | 5.9% | −0.3 | 0 from 6 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 398 | 26 | 6.5% | +0.3 | 2 from 10 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 328 | 22 | 6.7% | +0.5 | 0 from 17 |
| Over 3m | 61 | 1 | 1.6% | −4.6 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
One Bid (IRE) (King Luthier)
4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Koshere King (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 2m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Koshere King (IRE) | 16 | 1 | 2m | — |
| Six Of Us (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| My Red Vic (IRE) | 15 | 0 | — | — |
| Lenamore Boy (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| Heavy | 9 | 2 | 22% | +1.00 |
| Soft | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Good to Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kilbeggan | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Navan | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Punchestown | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Clonmel | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Down Royal | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sligo | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| Wexford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Downpatrick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Galway | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.50 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 17 | 0 | 0% | −17.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 10 | 2 | 20% | +0.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Niki O'Shea | 12 | 1 | 8% | −6.50 |
| Ben Dalton | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| R Walsh | 5 | 1 | 20% | −0.50 |
| Ian McCarthy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| P W Flood | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr M P Kelly | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Conor Shoemark | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| A E Lynch | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jack Doyle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2012 | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 2011 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2009 | 7 | 2 | 29% | +3.00 |
| 2008 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2007 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 28 | 2 | 7% | −18.00 |
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 18 May 13+231d | Bangor-on-Dee | Gap Personnel Hunters' Chase | PU/5 | — | 11-11 | — | — | Conor Shoemark | 25/1 |
| 2012 · 10 runs | |||||||||
| 29 Sep 12+48d | Navan | Drogheda Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 8/27 | 2¼ | 11-3 | 91 | 96A | Ben Dalton | 20/1 |
| 12 Aug 12+48d | Downpatrick | Keeping It Country Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 5/13 | 12 | 11-5 | 93 | 94C | Ben Dalton | 10/1 |
| 25 Jun 12+22d | Kilbeggan | Hurley Family Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 3/16 | 8 | 11-5 | 93 | 107A | Ben Dalton | 8/1 |
| 03 Jun 12+9d | Kilbeggan | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 7/11 | 3¾ | 11-1 | 95 | 98A | Ben Dalton | 10/1 |
| 25 May 12+16d | Cork | Like Us On Facebook Handicap Hurdle (80-109) (Div 2) | 6/22 | 5½ | 10-12 | 96 | 108A | Ben Dalton | 25/1 |
| 09 May 12+39d | Punchestown | Tote Sports Lounge Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 15/19 | 3 | 11-1 | 96 | 92C | Ben Dalton | 11/1 |
| 31 Mar 12+23d | Navan | www.thetote.com Handicap Hurdle (80-109) (Div 1) | 3/15 | 1¾ | 10-6 | 96 | 109A | Ben Dalton | 7/1 |
| 08 Mar 12+36d | Clonmel | Comeragh Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 15/18 | 3½ | 11-2 | 97 | 90C | R Walsh | 5/1 |
| 01 Feb 12+17d | Down Royal | Bet With The Tote Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 3/13 | 2¼ | 11-0 | 96 | 125A | R Walsh | 4/1 |
| 15 Jan 12+20d | Navan | Meath Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 8/13 | 9 | 11-0 | 97 | 89A | R Walsh | 10/1 |
| 2011 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Dec 11+15d | Limerick | Guinness Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 11/14 | 4½ | 10-12 | 100 | 98C | Ian McCarthy | 9/1 |
| 11 Dec 11+805d | Punchestown | 10 Admission To Durkan Day Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 8/22 | 5½ | 11-0 | 102 | 99C | Ian McCarthy | 25/1 |
| 2009 · 7 runs | |||||||||
| 27 Sep 09+29d | Clonmel | Powerstown Park Handicap Hurdle (81-116) | 2/17 | shd | 11-4 | 105 | 128A | R Walsh | 7/2F |
| 29 Aug 09+21d | Galway | O'Leary Insurances Handicap Hurdle (81-109) | 1/10 | 11-2 | 98 | 122A | R Walsh | 7/2F | |
| 08 Aug 09+22d | Kilbeggan | Kieran Kelly Memorial Beginners Chase | F/14 | — | 11-9 | — | — | Niki O'Shea | 14/1 |
| 17 Jul 09+12d | Kilbeggan | Scanlon's Bar & Restaurant Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 5/16 | 3 | 11-8 | 98 | 110A | Niki O'Shea | 5/1 |
| 05 Jul 09+35d | Sligo | Corporate Entertaining At Sligo Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 1/12 | 11-6 | 92 | 122A | Niki O'Shea | 9/2J | |
| 31 May 09+150d | Kilbeggan | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 3/15 | nk | 11-8 | 90 | 113A | Niki O'Shea | 6/1 |
| 01 Jan 09+11d | Fairyhouse | Fairyhouse Membership 2009 Handicap Hurdle (81-116) | 12/15 | 4 | 10-1 | 92 | 84C | Niki O'Shea | 20/1 |
| 2008 · 9 runs | |||||||||
| 21 Dec 08+8d | Thurles | Holy Cross Novice Handicap Hurdle (81-109) | 14/16 | 30 | 11-0 | 93 | 86C | Niki O'Shea | 14/1 |
| 13 Dec 08+10d | Fairyhouse | Fairyhouse Membership 2009 Handicap Hurdle (rated 81-109) | 4/20 | 6 | 10-7 | 93 | 113A | Niki O'Shea | 25/1 |
| 03 Dec 08+11d | Fairyhouse | Elle Cardiff Handicap Hurdle (81-109) | 12/14 | 9 | 10-10 | 95 | 91C | Niki O'Shea | 12/1 |
| 22 Nov 08+55d | Gowran Park | Gowran Park Racing Club Handicap Hurdle (81-102) | 10/20 | 6 | 11-6 | 96 | 99A | P W Flood | 10/1 |
| 28 Sep 08+32d | Clonmel | Irish Coursing Club Handicap Hurdle (81-116) | 5/18 | 8 | 10-6 | 97 | 108A | Niki O'Shea | 11/2F |
| 27 Aug 08+33d | Bellewstown | Kelly Green Laytown Maiden Hurdle | 2/16 | 1 | 11-1 | 97 | 116A | Niki O'Shea | 8/1 |
| 25 Jul 08+12d | Wexford | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (81-102) | 3/15 | 3 | 11-0 | 92 | 116A | Niki O'Shea | 8/1 |
| 13 Jul 08+106d | Sligo | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Novice Hurdle | 6/12 | 1¾ | 11-2 | 92 | 104A | Niki O'Shea | 33/1 |
| 29 Mar 08+153d | Navan | Kilcarn Maiden Hurdle | 17/27 | 17 | 11-12 | 92 | 88C | A E Lynch | 8/1 |
| 2007 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Oct 07+11d | Wexford | Donohoe Memorial (pro-am) Inh Flat Race | 5/16 | ¾ | 11-9 | — | 110C | Jack Doyle | 14/1 |
| 17 Oct 07+28d | Punchestown | Ascot Visits Punchestown Maiden Hurdle | 7/24 | 10 | 11-12 | — | 109C | P W Flood | 33/1 |
| 19 Sep 07+18d | Listowel | Shannon House Foynes Inh Flat Race | 8/17 | 12 | 11-7 | — | 88C | Mr M P Kelly | 12/1 |
| 01 Sep 07 | Down Royal | Water Margin Inh Flat Race | 4/16 | 12 | 11-7 | — | 92C | Mr M P Kelly | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Donttellmother won?
- Donttellmother (IRE) won 2 of 33 archived starts between 2007 and 2013, a strike rate of 6.1%. Placed 10 times in total (30.3% of starts).
- Who trained Donttellmother?
- Donttellmother (IRE) was trained by Richard Mathias on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 18 May 2013.
- Who is Donttellmother's sire?
- Donttellmother (IRE) is by Carroll House (IRE) out of One Bid (IRE), whose sire is King Luthier.
- What going does Donttellmother prefer?
- Donttellmother (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 9 starts (22.2%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Donttellmother's official rating?
- Donttellmother (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 105.
- What is Donttellmother's sire's record?
- Carroll House (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.2% of 1,033 runs since Jan 2008 (133 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Donttellmother's siblings?
- Out of One Bid (IRE), Donttellmother (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Koshere King (IRE) (1). The wins came over 2m. As at Nov 2026.