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Horse profile

Empty Promises (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2020) · Last trainer Frank Bishop · Last owner M P Bishop
by Mazameer (IRE) out of Rathlin Sound (GB) (Equiano)
12 runs · 4 courses · from Feb 2019
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Sep 2020 — 2,233 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2020 · 11th of 13 Last raced off OR 45
KTB Profile

Empty Promises (GB) is yet to win from 12 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 7 at Wolverhampton (AW) (Feb 2019). Last raced off 45, 17lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 17lb off peak
Official rating45↓ 17lb off peak
45 45–62

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 76 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 21 Aug 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 81A · median 66.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1081A68.5—
Good to Firm240C33—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
6f – 7f681A67—
Under 6f676A66.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 51A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 23 Aug 2020 Official rating 45 at the last run, 15 Sep 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 63A · median 43
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1063A48—
Good to Firm239C39—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
6f – 7f663A49—
Under 6f651A43—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Mazameer (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 473 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.8—
Good to Firm8522.4%−5.40 from 2
Good80911.3%+3.5—
Good to Soft5347.5%−0.3—
Soft60610%+2.2—
Heavy1000%−7.8—
Standard (AW)183168.7%+0.90 from 10
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f113108.8%+10 from 6
6f – 7f232198.2%+0.40 from 6
1m – 1m1f8211.2%−6.6—
1m2f – 1m4f33618.2%+10.4—
1m5f – 2m1218.3%+0.5—
2m1f – 2m4f100%−7.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rathlin Sound (GB) (Equiano)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Willshewontshe (GB)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 10 0 0% −10.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 10 0 0% −10.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wolverhampton (AW) 9 0 0% −9.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 6 0 0% −6.00
Under 6f 6 0 0% −6.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Liam Keniry 3 0 0% −3.00
Finley Marsh 3 0 0% −3.00
Robbie Downey 2 0 0% −2.00
Ray Dawson 2 0 0% −2.00
P J McDonald 1 0 0% −1.00
Connor Beasley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 8 0 0% −8.00
2019 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 8 runs
15 Sep 20+2d Kempton (AW) Unibet Casino Deposit 10 Get 40 Bonus Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 11/13 6 8-12 4564B36A Liam Keniry 125/1
13 Sep 20+21d Wolverhampton (AW) Visit attheraces.com Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 12/12 25 8-12 4525C24C Robbie Downey 80/1
23 Aug 20+2d Wolverhampton (AW) Visit attheraces.com Classified Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 8/10 2 9-2 4566A51A Robbie Downey 50/1
21 Aug 20+14d Wolverhampton (AW) Follow At The Races On Twitter Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 11 ran 11/11 ½ 8-7 4576A38A Ray Dawson 50/1
07 Aug 20+11d Wolverhampton (AW) MansionBet Proud To Support British Racing Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard To Slow · 10 ran 8/10 shd 8-9 4867A47A Ray Dawson 50/1
27 Jul 20+10d Redcar Sky Bet Thank You Key Workers Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 12/12 7 9-4 5240C39C P J McDonald 80/1
17 Jul 20+163d Beverley Churchill Tyres Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 12/15 shd 9-7 5526C39A Connor Beasley 50/1
05 Feb 20+271d Wolverhampton (AW) betyourway At Betway Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 1¾ 9-2 6072A49A Liam Keniry 66/1
2019 · 4 runs
10 May 19+55d Wolverhampton (AW) Myracing.com For Wolverhampton Tips Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 9/10 1½ 9-7 6256A34A Liam Keniry 8/1
16 Mar 19+19d Wolverhampton (AW) Betway Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 13 ran 5/13 4½ 8-12 —72B61A Finley Marsh 33/1
25 Feb 19+19d Wolverhampton (AW) Betway Novice Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 3/7 1¾ 8-10 —70B59A Finley Marsh 14/1
06 Feb 19 Wolverhampton (AW) Betway Novice Median Auction Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 2/7 nk 8-10 —81A63A Finley Marsh 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Empty Promises won?
Empty Promises (GB) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2019 and 2020. Placed 1 time in total (8.3% of starts).
Who trained Empty Promises?
Empty Promises (GB) was trained by Frank Bishop on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 15 September 2020.
Who is Empty Promises's sire?
Empty Promises (GB) is by Mazameer (IRE) out of Rathlin Sound (GB), whose sire is Equiano.
What is Empty Promises's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 45, from the run on 15 September 2020. The highest on record is 62.
What is Empty Promises's sire's record?
Mazameer (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 473 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Empty Promises's siblings?
Out of Rathlin Sound (GB), Empty Promises (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.