6yo gelding (at last run, May 2019)· Last trainer Barry Murtagh· Last owner Northumbria Leisure Ltd
by Kitten's Joy (USA) out of La Coruna (USA) (Thunder Gulch)
16 runs · 13 courses · from Mar 2017
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 May 2019 — 2,710 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2019 · 10th of 13Won at Newcastle (AW)Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile
Forbidding (USA) is 1 from 16, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Jul 2018. The win came on the all-weather — 0 from 12 on turf. Last raced off a career-high mark of 100.
Based on 16 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glanceWon on AW, 0 on turfWin at Class 6OR at career high
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating100At career-high mark
10055–100
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed115the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kelso, 8 May 2019
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Jumps 6 figures · best 141B · median 112
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
Good
5
117C
109
—
Good to Soft
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m
2
117C
116
—
2m1f – 2m4f
2
97C
73.5
—
1m5f – 2m
2
141B
125
—
Flat 10 figures · best 116A · median 91
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)
4
116A
91
—
Good to Soft
3
111C
106
—
Soft
1
—
—
—
Good to Firm
1
—
—
—
Good
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m
5
116A
95
—
1m2f – 1m4f
3
91A
79
—
2m1f – 2m4f
2
106A
96.5
—
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
KTB Rating
Best recent KTB Rating (jumps)104Bthe best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 8 May 2019Official rating 100at the last jumps run, 27 May 2019
Best recent KTB Rating (flat)68Athe best of the last 3 rated runs · Pontefract, 20 Sep 2018Official rating 57at the last flat run, 17 Oct 2018
What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →
Jumps 6 figures · best 108A · median 101
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
Good
5
108A
98
—
Good to Soft
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m
2
104B
101
—
2m1f – 2m4f
2
89C
88.5
—
1m5f – 2m
2
108A
107.5
—
Flat 10 figures · best 76A · median 59
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)
4
76A
56.5
—
Good to Soft
3
61C
54
—
Soft
1
—
—
—
Good to Firm
1
—
—
—
Good
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m
5
76A
61
—
1m2f – 1m4f
3
63C
54
—
2m1f – 2m4f
2
68A
60
—
KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Kitten's Joy (USA)
Progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 2,079 runs since Jan 2008 (212 horses).
Weakest on good going: 6.6% from 411. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.5% from 253.
Going
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Firm
14
4
28.6%
+18
—
Good to Firm
322
38
11.8%
+1.2
0 from 1
Good
411
27
6.6%
−4
0 from 6
Good to Soft
191
19
9.9%
−0.7
0 from 4
Soft
240
26
10.8%
+0.2
0 from 1
Heavy
66
7
10.6%
0
—
Standard (AW)
835
99
11.9%
+1.3
1 from 4
Distance (all codes)
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Under 6f
38
4
10.5%
−0.1
—
6f – 7f
472
45
9.5%
−1.1
—
1m – 1m1f
564
67
11.9%
+1.3
—
1m2f – 1m4f
632
79
12.5%
+1.9
0 from 3
1m5f – 2m
253
19
7.5%
−3.1
1 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f
68
4
5.9%
−4.7
0 from 4
2m5f – 3m
48
2
4.2%
−6.4
0 from 2
Over 3m
4
0
0%
−10.6
—
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
La Coruna (USA) (Thunder Gulch)
3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Nepeta (USA) (1 win).
The wins came over 7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Nepeta (USA)).
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Forbidding (USA) won 1 of 16 archived starts between 2017 and 2019, a strike rate of 6.3%. Placed 1 time in total (6.3% of starts).
Who trained Forbidding?
Forbidding (USA) was trained by Barry Murtagh on the most recent run on record, at Cartmel on 27 May 2019.
Who is Forbidding's sire?
Forbidding (USA) is by Kitten's Joy (USA) out of La Coruna (USA), whose sire is Thunder Gulch.
What going does Forbidding prefer?
Forbidding (USA) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Forbidding's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 27 May 2019. That is also the highest on record.
What is Forbidding's sire's record?
Kitten's Joy (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 2,079 runs since Jan 2008 (212 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good going: 6.6% from 411. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.5% from 253.
Who are Forbidding's siblings?
Out of La Coruna (USA), Forbidding (USA) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Nepeta (USA) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Nepeta (USA)). The wins came over 7f. As at Oct 2026.
Forbidding (USA)·1–16·SR 6.3%
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