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Hopeless Dancer (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2025) · Trainer Nigel & Willy Twiston-Davies · Owner N A Twiston Davies
by Dragon Dancer (GB) out of Caerlonore (IRE) (Traditionally)
5 runs · 4 courses · from Sep 2025
As at 25 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
Beaten favourite LTO Last run 3 Dec 2025 · 2nd of 6
KTB Profile

Hopeless Dancer is a maiden who has placed four times from five starts on turf. He finished second of six in a Class 4 novices’ claiming hurdle at Ludlow in Dec 2025 and was the beaten favourite that day. All four placings have come over 1m5f – 2m. He is by Dragon Dancer out of a Traditionally mare and is trained by Nigel & Willy Twiston-Davies.

Based on 5 archived runs · run-style from 4 commented runs since Sep 2025 · updated 25 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 131 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Warwick, 1 Oct 2025

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 131B · median 125
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2125A108.51 run · —
Good2131B129.51 run · —
Soft1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4131B1152 runs · 105 / 98.5
2m5f – 3m1——1 run · —

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 118C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ludlow, 6 Nov 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 121A · median 116
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2121A118.51 run · —
Good2118C114.51 run · —
Soft1——1 run · —
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 25 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4121A115.52 runs · 116 / 115.5
2m5f – 3m1——1 run · —

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 4 analysed runs since Sep 2025

  • Prominent 2 (50%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 1 (25%) · 0 wins
  • Led 1 (25%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 570 runs since Jan 2008 (80 horses).

Strongest on good going: 12% from 158.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm1600%−8.9—
Good1581912%+3.10 from 2
Good to Soft128107.8%−1.10 from 2
Soft139139.4%+0.50 from 1
Heavy80911.3%+2.4—
Standard (AW)4900%−8.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−8.9—
6f – 7f1500%−8.9—
1m – 1m1f3000%−8.9—
1m2f – 1m4f7311.4%−7.5—
1m5f – 2m1812011%+2.10 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f174158.6%−0.3—
2m5f – 3m731013.7%+4.80 from 1
Over 3m23521.7%+12.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 24 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Caerlonore (IRE) (Traditionally)

6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Rectory Road (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Rectory Road (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Rectory Road (GB)4257f–1mClass 4
Glorious Star (IRE)417fClass 6
Rongwayriley (IRE)10——
Clear Intent (IRE)40——
Ensign Ewart (GB)80——
Youonlyliveonce (IRE)150——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ludlow 2 0 0% −2.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Sam Twiston-Davies 3 0 0% −3.00
James Turner 1 0 0% −1.00
Jamie Brace 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Hurdle 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 5 runs
03 Dec 25+27d Ludlow Marsh Commercial Insurance Novices' Claiming Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 6 ran Up with the front runner - nudged for effort approaching 3 out - hit the front before the last and into the run-in - caught and denied by a short head 2/6 nk 11-10 92A116B Sam Twiston-Davies 4/11F
06 Nov 25+9d Ludlow Bright Maize 'Introductory' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 3 · 21f · Good · 3 ran Jumping a little untidy - settled at the back - lost touch 7th - shaved deficit despite a mistake 2 out but couldn't get to grips with leaders 3/3 2¾ 11-1 128C118C Sam Twiston-Davies 11/2
28 Oct 25+27d Ffos Las DragonBet BOG And Extra Places NH Flat Race (Conditional/Amateur) (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 9 ran Took a strong hold early - hit the front - driven along and challenged 2f out - overtaken inside final furlong - stayed on same gear but couldn't reel in winner 2/9 2¾ 10-10 105A115A James Turner 11/2
01 Oct 25+16d Warwick Assets Out For Zoo Accounting Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Good · 7 ran Disputed pace early before hitting front 5f out - lost advantage inside final 2f - pushed along and battled on late to finish second 2/7 2¼ 10-10 131B111B Jamie Brace 11/8F
15 Sep 25 Worcester PJ Nicholls KGM Korea Genuinely Made Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 10 ran Handy early - hit front at halfway - driven out with over 2f left then lost lead - kept responding to finish but never able to threaten winner 3/10 4½ 11-0 125A121A Sam Twiston-Davies 11/4

Quick answers

How many races has Hopeless Dancer won?
Hopeless Dancer (GB) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts in 2025. Placed 4 times in total (80% of starts).
Who trains Hopeless Dancer?
Hopeless Dancer (GB) is trained by Nigel & Willy Twiston-Davies, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 3 December 2025.
Who is Hopeless Dancer's sire?
Hopeless Dancer (GB) is by Dragon Dancer (GB) out of Caerlonore (IRE), whose sire is Traditionally.
What is Hopeless Dancer's sire's record?
Dragon Dancer (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 570 runs since Jan 2008 (80 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good going: 12% from 158.
Who are Hopeless Dancer's siblings?
Out of Caerlonore (IRE), Hopeless Dancer (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Rectory Road (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Rectory Road (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2025. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.