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Horse profile

If I Say (IRE)

7yo mare (at last run, Oct 2024) · Last trainer Charlie Longsdon · Last owner Stratford Racecourse 3
by Free Eagle (IRE) out of Wandering Star (IRE) (Verglas)
23 runs · 11 courses · from May 2021
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Oct 2024 — 751 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2024 Won at Worcester Last raced off OR 71
KTB Profile

If I Say is a mare who won one of 23 starts, the success coming in a Class 5 handicap hurdle at Worcester in Sep 2022 over 2m1f – 2m4f on good to soft. All wins at Class 5. She has not won since. Her last run, at Hereford in Oct 2024, was off an official rating of 71, 19lb below her highest ever mark.

Based on 23 archived runs · run-style from 2 commented runs since Sep 2024 · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 5 OR ↓ 19lb off peak
Official rating71↓ 19lb off peak
71 71–90

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 93 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Worcester, 15 Jun 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 14 figures · best 115B · median 89.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good10112A92.5—
Good to Soft283C78.5—
Soft2115B92.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f696A89.5—
2m5f – 3m5115B86—
1m5f – 2m2112A91—
Over 3m1———

Of 23 runs looked at, 9 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (5) · did not complete (4).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 23 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 71C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Bangor-on-Dee, 28 Jun 2024 Official rating 71 at the last run, 14 Oct 2024

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 100A · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good1498B85—
Good to Soft3100A75—
Soft297A93—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f9100A90—
2m5f – 3m797A85—
1m5f – 2m289C82—
Over 3m1———

Of 23 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 19 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Free Eagle (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 2,412 runs since Apr 2019 (190 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 6.1% from 131.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm11218.2%+7.5—
Good to Firm2032713.3%+2.6—
Good681669.7%−10 from 17
Good to Soft272248.8%−1.91 from 4
Soft443398.8%−1.90 from 2
Heavy13186.1%−4.6—
Standard (AW)6719113.6%+2.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2700%−10.7—
6f – 7f3383410.1%−0.6—
1m – 1m1f5146512.6%+1.9—
1m2f – 1m4f6947310.5%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m5265710.8%+0.10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f248228.9%−1.81 from 10
2m5f – 3m5958.5%−2.20 from 8
Over 3m6116.7%+60 from 3

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2019 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Wandering Star (IRE) (Verglas)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Clarnagh Maid (IRE)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 17 0 0% −17.00
Good to Soft 4 1 25% −0.50
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 19 1 5% −15.50
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Worcester 5 1 20% −1.50
Huntingdon 3 0 0% −3.00
Ludlow 3 0 0% −3.00
Hereford 2 0 0% −2.00
Fontwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Stratford 2 0 0% −2.00
Bangor-on-Dee 2 0 0% −2.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 10 1 10% −6.50
2m5f – 3m 8 0 0% −8.00
Over 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Lilly Pinchin 7 0 0% −7.00
Elizabeth Gale 4 0 0% −4.00
Cian Chester 4 0 0% −4.00
Bradley Roberts 2 1 50% +1.50
Sam Twiston-Davies 2 0 0% −2.00
Charlie Deutsch 2 0 0% −2.00
Dylan Kitts 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Zac Baker 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 17 1 6% −13.50
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2024 5 0 0% −5.00
2023 7 0 0% −7.00
2022 6 1 17% −2.50
2021 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 14 1 7% −10.50
Chase 7 0 0% −7.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 5 runs
14 Oct 24+36d Hereford Kestrel Valley Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 3m1f · Good · 8 ran Tardy into stride - leapt left at the off - towards the rear - progress though untidy at the 3rd - clumsy and dropped back at the 5th - struggling badly 3 out - pulled up before the last PU/8 — 10-8 71—— Lilly Pinchin 15/2
08 Sep 24+49d Fontwell V2 Radio Conditional Jockeys' Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5½f · Good To Soft · 9 ran Went straight to the front early - shared command from the 3rd before losing pole spot approaching 3 out - unable to find more and dropped away before 2 out 5/9 4 9-9 7383C68C Elizabeth Gale 17/2
21 Jul 24+23d Stratford Allan Atkinson Memorial Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 5 · 3m2½f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 4 9-9 74100C67C Elizabeth Gale 8/1
28 Jun 24+29d Bangor-on-Dee Horseradish Catering & Events Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m7f · Good · 13 ran 6/13 2¾ 9-9 7786C71C Elizabeth Gale 12/1
30 May 24+187d Ffos Las Evelyn Maisie Kent Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m · Good · 12 ran 7/12 2½ 10-5 79—85A Elizabeth Gale 40/1
2023 · 7 runs
25 Nov 23+46d Huntingdon Daily Charged Up Offers At Rhino.bet Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 3m1f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 9-13 79—— Lilly Pinchin 6/1
10 Oct 23+37d Huntingdon Mayor Of Huntingdon Charity Race Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m7½f · Good · 8 ran 3/8 32 10-5 8136C76C Cian Chester 9/1
03 Sep 23+33d Worcester John Cordell Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m7f · Good · 10 ran F/10 — 9-13 81—— Cian Chester 8/1
01 Aug 23+16d Worcester Pershore Plum Festival Land O'Plums Novices' Handicap Chase (Div 2) Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 8 ran 2/8 6 10-0 8187A95A Cian Chester 4/1
16 Jul 23+31d Stratford National Racehorse Week 9th-17th September Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3½f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 15 10-5 8361B87A Cian Chester 10/3F
15 Jun 23+29d Worcester Get Pulling With PJ Nicholls SsangYong Novices' Handicap Chase (Div 1) Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 10 ran 2/10 13 10-10 8393A97A Lilly Pinchin 12/1
17 May 23+142d Worcester Importance of Being Earnest Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 12 ran 8/12 37 10-11 86—80C Lilly Pinchin 10/1
2022 · 6 runs
26 Dec 22+35d Huntingdon Racing Tv Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 7/10 11 10-11 86—75C Lilly Pinchin 10/1
21 Nov 22+33d Ludlow Weatherbys Hamilton Mares' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 3¾ 10-9 88115B97A Bradley Roberts 10/1
19 Oct 22+37d Fontwell Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5½f · Good · 14 ran 7/14 2¼ 10-13 88—85C Lilly Pinchin 4/1F
12 Sep 22+121d Worcester Richard Hitchings Memorial Mares' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-6 8374A100A Bradley Roberts 5/2F
14 May 22+24d Uttoxeter 1652 Bar And Restaurant, Weston Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 ¾ 10-7 87—90C Lilly Pinchin 14/1
20 Apr 22+127d Ludlow Suzuki ATV Mares' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m5f · Good · 13 ran 9/13 1 11-5 90110C87C Sam Twiston-Davies 16/1
2021 · 5 runs
14 Dec 21+20d Wincanton Follow MansionBet On Twitter Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 17 ran F/17 — 10-12 90—— Charlie Deutsch 14/1
24 Nov 21+14d Hereford Cazoo Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 11 10-4 —96A98B Sam Twiston-Davies 22/1
10 Nov 21+35d Bangor-on-Dee Paul Ferguson's Jumpers To Follow 'National Hunt' Auction Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m½f · Soft · 11 ran 4/11 24 10-11 —70C89C Charlie Deutsch 40/1
06 Oct 21+145d Ludlow NHS Are At The Races Mares' Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m · Good · 8 ran 5/8 6 10-3 —112A75A Dylan Kitts 13/2
14 May 21 Aintree Goffs UK Spring Sale P2P Bumper Standard NH Flat Race (Amateur Riders') (GBB Race) Class 3 · 2m1f · Good · 6 ran 5/6 11 10-13 —92C80C Mr Zac Baker 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has If I Say won?
If I Say (IRE) won 1 of 23 archived starts between 2021 and 2024, a strike rate of 4.3%. Placed 6 times in total (26.1% of starts).
Who trained If I Say?
If I Say (IRE) was trained by Charlie Longsdon on the most recent run on record, at Hereford on 14 October 2024.
Who is If I Say's sire?
If I Say (IRE) is by Free Eagle (IRE) out of Wandering Star (IRE), whose sire is Verglas.
What going does If I Say prefer?
If I Say (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is If I Say's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 71, from the run on 14 October 2024. The highest on record is 90.
What is If I Say's sire's record?
Free Eagle (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 2,412 runs since Apr 2019 (190 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 6.1% from 131.
Who are If I Say's siblings?
Out of Wandering Star (IRE), If I Say (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2021. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.