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Horse profile

Itdosnot Botherme (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2012) · Last trainer Oliver McKiernan · Last owner Redgap Partnership
by Presenting (GB) out of Supreme Sales (IRE) (Supreme Leader)
8 runs · 6 courses · from May 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Apr 2012 — 5,303 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2012 Last raced off OR 109
KTB Profile

Itdosnot Botherme (IRE) is yet to win from 8 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 21 at Punchestown (IRE) (May 2009). Last raced off a career-high mark of 109.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 128A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Leopardstown, 28 Dec 2009 Official rating 109 at the last run, 20 Apr 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 128A · median 111
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft4128A118.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2128A108.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2126A118.5—
2m5f – 3m1———

Of 8 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.80 from 1
Good7,02284012%+10 from 1
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.8—
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.80 from 5
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.10 from 1
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.10 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.20 from 5
2m5f – 3m6,53774211.4%+0.40 from 1
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Supreme Sales (IRE) (Supreme Leader)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them South Terrace (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (South Terrace (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
South Terrace (IRE)1522m3½f–2m7½fClass 2
Big Dawg (IRE)30——
Hi Meehall (IRE)10——
Blue Morpho (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wexford 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robbie Colgan 4 0 0% −4.00
Barry Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Kevin Coleman 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R P Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 0 0% −6.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 2 0 0% −2.00
2011 2 0 0% −2.00
2009 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 2 runs
20 Apr 12+17d Wexford Black Point Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 20f · Good To Firm · 15 ran PU/15 — 10-12 109— Robbie Colgan 40/1
03 Apr 12+136d Thurles Bavaria Beer Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 18 ran 14/18 13 11-4 189C Robbie Colgan 12/1
2011 · 2 runs
19 Nov 11+24d Punchestown Punchestown For Value Beginners Chase 20f · Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-12 —— Robbie Colgan 50/1
26 Oct 11+667d Punchestown Christmas Parties At Punchestown Beginners Chase 20f · Heavy · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-12 —— Robbie Colgan 25/1
2009 · 4 runs
28 Dec 09+52d Leopardstown O'dwyer's Stillorgan Orchard Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 26 ran 4/26 1¼ 11-12 108128A Barry Geraghty 11/1
06 Nov 09+12d Down Royal Allianz Maiden Hurdle 22f · Soft · 20 ran 13/20 13 11-4 —97C Paul Carberry 5/1F
25 Oct 09+176d Wexford Rocklands Service Station (c & G) Maiden Hurdle 18f · Soft · 16 ran 4/16 4½ 11-4 —111A Kevin Coleman 11/4
02 May 09 Punchestown (IRE) O'Hare O'Connor Walshe Solicitors (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race 17f · Soft · 21 ran 2/21 ¾ 11-9 —126A Mr R P Quinlan 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Itdosnot Botherme won?
Itdosnot Botherme (IRE) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2009 and 2012. Placed 1 time in total (12.5% of starts).
Who trained Itdosnot Botherme?
Itdosnot Botherme (IRE) was trained by Oliver McKiernan on the most recent run on record, at Wexford on 20 April 2012.
Who is Itdosnot Botherme's sire?
Itdosnot Botherme (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Supreme Sales (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
What is Itdosnot Botherme's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 109, from the run on 20 April 2012. That is also the highest on record.
What is Itdosnot Botherme's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,050 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Itdosnot Botherme's siblings?
Out of Supreme Sales (IRE), Itdosnot Botherme (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: South Terrace (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 2 (South Terrace (IRE)). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.