Logician (GB)
Logician (GB) is 6 from 9, including a Group 1 win. The biggest win we hold: the William Hill St Leger Stakes at Doncaster (Sep 2019). Hasn't won since Sep 2020. 5 of 6 starts on good or faster ground have ended in wins — 1 from 3 on softer.
Progeny in our archive
As a sire, Logician (GB)’s progeny in our archive have won 22.2% of 9 runs since Jan 2008 (4 horses). A small sample.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
| Soft | 1 | 1 | 100% | +77.8 |
| Heavy | 2 | 1 | 50% | +27.8 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 2 | 100% | +77.8 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −22.2 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
- 6–9Wins / Runs
- 66.7%Strike rate
- 7 (77.8%)Placed
- +2.24£1 level staken=9 at SP
- 1.22Fair A/E n=9 · 1.08 incl. margin
- 118Highest OR
- 96dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 145
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 21 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 145A | 129 | — |
| Good | 3 | 111C | 86 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 103C | 89 | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 21 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 8 | 129C | 95.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,499 runs since Jan 2008 (875 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 12.3% from 324. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.4% from 267.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 15 | 4 | 26.7% | +8.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1,280 | 259 | 20.2% | +2.2 | 2 from 3 |
| Good | 1,915 | 362 | 18.9% | +0.9 | 3 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 1,020 | 175 | 17.2% | −0.8 | 1 from 2 |
| Soft | 1,106 | 161 | 14.6% | −3.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 324 | 40 | 12.3% | −5.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,839 | 347 | 18.9% | +0.9 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 64 | 11 | 17.2% | −0.8 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,256 | 236 | 18.8% | +0.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,972 | 368 | 18.7% | +0.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,877 | 543 | 18.9% | +0.9 | 5 from 8 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 968 | 151 | 15.6% | −2.4 | 1 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 267 | 33 | 12.4% | −5.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 84 | 6 | 7.1% | −10.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 11 | 0 | 0% | −18 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
8 siblings in the archive, 8 winners — best of them Collide (GB) (6 wins).
The wins came over 5½f–1m6f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Okeechobee (GB)).
Family form: Najidi Storm (GB) finished 2nd of 11 at Wolverhampton (AW), 28 Sep 2026.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Collide (GB) | 16 | 6 | 1m1f–1m6f | Listed |
| Okeechobee (GB) | 11 | 4 | 1m–1m2f | Group 3 |
| Suffused (GB) | 8 | 3 | 7f–1m2f | Class 3 |
| Battlement (GB) | 9 | 3 | 7f–1m | Class 4 |
| Sleep Walk (GB) | 5 | 3 | 5½f–6f | Class 5 |
| Skimmer (GB) | 3 | 2 | 1m2f–1m3f | Class 2 |
| Najidi Storm (GB) | 3 | 1 | 1m | Class 4 |
| Monsoon Moon (GB) | 2 | 1 | 1m | Class 4 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 2 | 67% | +0.03 |
| Good | 3 | 3 | 100% | +3.99 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.78 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 1 | 5 | 2 | 40% | −1.26 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 2 | 100% | +3.22 |
| Class 2 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.08 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.20 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newbury | 3 | 2 | 67% | +2.20 |
| Newmarket | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.78 |
| York | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.09 |
| Doncaster | 2 | 2 | 100% | +0.91 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 8 | 5 | 63% | +1.41 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.83 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Frankie Dettori | 5 | 4 | 80% | +1.02 |
| Robert Havlin | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.78 |
| Martin Harley | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kieran O'Neill | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2020 | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.92 |
| 2019 | 5 | 5 | 100% | +5.16 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Logician (GB) won?
- Logician (GB) won 6 of 9 archived starts between 2019 and 2021, a strike rate of 66.7%. Placed 7 times in total (77.8% of starts).
- Who trained Logician (GB)?
- Logician (GB) was trained by John & Thady Gosden on the most recent run on record, at Newmarket on 26 June 2021.
- Who is Logician (GB)'s sire?
- Logician (GB) is by Frankel (GB) out of Scuffle (GB), whose sire is Daylami.
- What going does Logician (GB) prefer?
- Logician (GB) has the best record on good going: 3 wins from 3 starts (100%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Logician (GB)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 116, from the run on 26 June 2021. The highest on record is 118.
- What is Logician (GB)'s sire's record?
- Frankel (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,499 runs since Jan 2008 (875 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 12.3% from 324. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.4% from 267.
- Who are Logician (GB)'s siblings?
- Out of Scuffle (GB), Logician (GB) has 8 other produce in our archive, 8 of them winners. Most wins: Collide (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Okeechobee (GB)). The wins came over 5½f–1m6f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Logician (GB) sired winners?
- As a sire, Logician (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 22.2% of 9 runs since Jan 2008 (4 horses), Flat and jumps together. A small sample.