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Need To Know (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2017) · Last trainer John Paul Brennan · Last owner Mrs Marie Brennancolm Hearne
by Definite Article (GB) out of Desperado Queen (IRE) (Un Desperado)
20 runs · 12 courses · from Apr 2014
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Nov 2017 — 3,266 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2017 2 wins · Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) & Punchestown Last raced off OR 131
KTB Profile

Need To Know (IRE) is 2 from 20. Hasn't won since May 2017. Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 9 on softer). Last raced off a career-high mark of 131.

Based on 20 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 67 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Punchestown, 29 Apr 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 67B · median 54
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm267B54—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m267B54—

Of 4 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 2 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 120B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Punchestown, 29 Apr 2017 Official rating 131 at the last run, 17 Nov 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 122B · median 106
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5122B106—
Good to Firm3120B106—
Good3107C107—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m10122B106—
Over 3m2107C105.5—

Of 19 runs looked at, 7 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (7).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 19 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Definite Article (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 5,617 runs since Jan 2008 (527 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5.1% from 138. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.3% from 211.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm26519.2%+8.7—
Good to Firm5316913%+2.51 from 4
Good2,03122411%+0.51 from 7
Good to Soft8358910.7%+0.20 from 1
Soft1,3771228.9%−1.60 from 7
Heavy6797410.9%+0.40 from 1
Standard (AW)13875.1%−5.4—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f11218.2%+7.7—
1m – 1m1f49510.2%−0.3—
1m2f – 1m4f21194.3%−6.2—
1m5f – 2m1,81118510.2%−0.3—
2m1f – 2m4f1,90020410.7%+0.2—
2m5f – 3m1,34915611.6%+1.12 from 15
Over 3m2862910.1%−0.40 from 5

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Desperado Queen (IRE) (Un Desperado)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Mousey Brown (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m6f; the highest grade won is Listed (Mousey Brown (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Mousey Brown (IRE)3162m4f–3mListed
I Just Know (IRE)2943m–3m6fClass 3
Just Don't Know (IRE)2242m4f–3mClass 3
Hidden Diva (IRE)20——
Desperado Genie (IRE)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 1 14% −3.20
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 4 1 25% +5.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Punchestown 5 1 20% +4.00
Cheltenham 3 0 0% −3.00
Downpatrick 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) 1 1 100% +2.80
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 15 2 13% −2.20
Over 3m 5 0 0% −5.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr B O'Neill 10 0 0% −10.00
Mr B O Walsh 2 2 100% +10.80
Mr D G Lavery 2 0 0% −2.00
J J Slevin 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr H D Dunne 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Derek O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr S Clements 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr P D Collins 1 0 0% −1.00
Jonathan Burke 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 14 0 0% −14.00
None 5 2 40% +7.80
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 5 2 40% +7.80
2016 4 0 0% −4.00
2015 6 0 0% −6.00
2014 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 5 runs
17 Nov 17+176d Cheltenham Glenfarclas Cross Country Handicap Chase Class 2 · 30f · Good · 10 ran PU/10 — 9-13 131—— J J Slevin 25/1
25 May 17+26d Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) Prix de Gene (Cross-Country Chase) (Conditions) (6yo+) (Amateur Riders) (Turf) 22.5f · Good · 13 ran 1/13 10-12 ——— Mr B O Walsh 14/5
29 Apr 17+4d Punchestown Dooley Insurances Cross Country Chase 24f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 1/6 11-0 —67B120B Mr B O Walsh 8/1
25 Apr 17+30d Punchestown Kildare Hunt Club Fr Sean Breen Memorial Chase For The Ladies Perpetual Cup 24f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 4/10 9½ 11-7 —41B106A Mr B O'Neill 9/2
26 Mar 17+293d Downpatrick Boardsmill Sires Maiden Hunters Chase 22f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-11 ——— Mr D G Lavery 7/2
2016 · 4 runs
06 Jun 16+41d Listowel Join The Listowel Races Supporters Club Hunters Chase 24f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-0 ——— Mr H D Dunne 10/1
26 Apr 16+19d Punchestown Kildare Hunt Club Fr Sean Breen Memorial Chase For The Ladies Perpetual Cup 24f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 4/9 4¾ 11-4 ——105A Mr B O'Neill 14/1
07 Apr 16+20d Aintree Crabbie's Fox Hunters' Chase (National Course) Class 2 · 21f · Soft · 22 ran F/22 — 12-0 109—— Mr B O'Neill 100/1
18 Mar 16+99d Cheltenham St. James's Place Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup Class 2 · 26.5f · Good · 24 ran 20/24 ½ 12-0 121—107C Mr Derek O'Connor 40/1
2015 · 6 runs
10 Dec 15+223d Punchestown Racing Again At Punchestown On New Year's Eve Hunters Chase 22f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran 3/15 15 11-1 ——106A Mr B O'Neill 4/1
01 May 15+18d Punchestown Racing Post Champion Hunters Chase 25f · Good To Yielding · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-9 ——— Mr S Clements 25/1
13 Apr 15+7d Tramore International Betting Available At Thetote.com Hunters Chase 22f · Good · 8 ran 3/8 6 11-4 ——106B Mr B O'Neill 7/2
06 Apr 15+24d Cork Coolmore N.h. Sires Leading Light & Ocovango Maiden Hunters Chase 24f · Yielding · 13 ran 7/13 1¼ 11-7 ——97A Mr P D Collins 9/4F
13 Mar 15+33d Cheltenham St. James's Place Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup Class 2 · 26.5f · Soft · 24 ran PU/24 — 12-0 129—— Mr B O'Neill 66/1
08 Feb 15+247d Leopardstown Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase 24f · Yielding · 9 ran 3/9 12 11-9 ——122B Mr D G Lavery 25/1
2014 · 5 runs
06 Jun 14+22d Downpatrick Catch Me If You Can Hunters Chase 21.5f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 11 11-4 ——107A Mr B O'Neill 9/1
15 May 14+10d Tipperary Glenview And Rathbarry Stud Novice Hunters Chase 23f · Yielding · 15 ran 4/15 3¼ 11-6 ——106B Mr B O'Neill 10/1
05 May 14+14d Down Royal Newmac Contracts Ltd. Hunters Chase 23f · Good To Firm · 6 ran PU/6 — 11-1 ——— Mr B O'Neill 15/8F
21 Apr 14+15d Cork Coolmore N.h. Sires Imperial Monarch & Recital Maiden Hunters Chase 24f · Yielding · 16 ran 4/16 hd 11-11 ——120A Mr B O'Neill 10/1
06 Apr 14 Fairyhouse Joseph R. O'reilly Memorial Hunters Chase 25f · Soft · 12 ran 6/12 1¼ 10-13 ——104A Jonathan Burke 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has Need To Know won?
Need To Know (IRE) won 2 of 20 archived starts between 2014 and 2017, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 6 times in total (30% of starts).
Who trained Need To Know?
Need To Know (IRE) was trained by John Paul Brennan on the most recent run on record, at Cheltenham on 17 November 2017.
Who is Need To Know's sire?
Need To Know (IRE) is by Definite Article (GB) out of Desperado Queen (IRE), whose sire is Un Desperado.
What going does Need To Know prefer?
Need To Know (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Need To Know's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 131, from the run on 17 November 2017. That is also the highest on record.
What is Need To Know's sire's record?
Definite Article (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 5,617 runs since Jan 2008 (527 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5.1% from 138. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.3% from 211.
Who are Need To Know's siblings?
Out of Desperado Queen (IRE), Need To Know (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Mousey Brown (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Listed (Mousey Brown (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.