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Horse profile

No Logic (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2023) · Last trainer Michael P Hourigan · Last owner P C Hayes
by Shantou (USA) out of Emma Ami (IRE) (Son Of Sharp Shot)
14 runs · 12 courses · from Feb 2021
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Aug 2023 — 1,152 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2023 · 13th of 15 Last raced off OR 85
KTB Profile

No Logic (IRE) is yet to win from 14 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 15 at Downpatrick (Aug 2021). Last raced off 85, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 18lb off peak
Official rating85↓ 18lb off peak
85 85–103

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 98 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Perth, 22 Sep 2021

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 104B · median 59
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft6104B51—
Good to Soft398A62—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m462B38.5—
2m5f – 3m3104B94—
2m1f – 2m4f298A77—
Over 3m1———

Of 14 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 14 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 96A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 20 May 2022 Official rating 85 at the last run, 26 Aug 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 114A · median 91
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft6110A88.5—
Good to Soft392C91—
Good2114A106.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4110A97.5—
1m5f – 2m492C90.5—
2m1f – 2m4f291B82.5—
Over 3m1———

Of 14 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 14 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Shantou (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 7,819 runs since Jan 2008 (539 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 20.3% from 158.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2150%+36.4—
Good to Firm1583220.3%+6.7—
Good2,28631013.6%00 from 2
Good to Soft1,43017612.3%−1.30 from 3
Soft2,61036313.9%+0.30 from 9
Heavy1,28217813.9%+0.3—
Standard (AW)5159.8%−3.8—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−13.6—
1m – 1m1f1100%−13.6—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−3.9—
1m5f – 2m2,03027613.6%00 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f2,70737814%+0.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m2,33833314.2%+0.60 from 6
Over 3m6687210.8%−2.80 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Emma Ami (IRE) (Son Of Sharp Shot)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Prince Of Perth (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Prince Of Perth (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Prince Of Perth (IRE)822m4f–3mClass 4
Shantou Moon (IRE)3022m6½f–3m1½fClass 4

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 9 0 0% −9.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 3 0 0% −3.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 6 0 0% −6.00
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Simon Torrens 6 0 0% −6.00
Thomas Reilly 3 0 0% −3.00
G B Noonan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ambrose McCurtin 1 0 0% −1.00
Mark McDonagh 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Bowen 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Foley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 8 0 0% −8.00
Tongue tie 6 0 0% −6.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 2 0 0% −2.00
2022 3 0 0% −3.00
2021 9 0 0% −9.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 13 0 0% −13.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
26 Aug 23+30d Killarney Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 20f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 13/15 shd 11-2 8556C74C G B Noonan 66/1
27 Jul 23+423d Limerick Racing Again October 21st Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 1) 22f · Yielding To Soft · 17 ran PU/17 — 11-6 87—— Ambrose McCurtin 50/1
30 May 22+10d Ballinrobe FBD Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 22.5f · Yielding · 16 ran SU/16 — 11-9 90—— Simon Torrens 10/1
20 May 22+40d Downpatrick Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 21.5f · Yielding To Soft · 13 ran 6/13 ½ 11-9 9194B96A Mark McDonagh 13/2
10 Apr 22+200d Tramore Lismore Handicap Chase (0-109) 15f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 11/15 23 10-12 911C92C Simon Torrens 18/1
22 Sep 21+16d Perth Lord Mansfield Memorial Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 5/6 14 10-11 10398A91B Sean Bowen 6/1
06 Sep 21+3d Galway Galway Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 21.5f · Good · 16 ran 7/16 5 11-7 94—99A Jack Foley 11/4F
03 Sep 21+26d Kilbeggan Belvedere House, Gardens & Park Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 25f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 3 12-0 9493B114A Simon Torrens 10/1
08 Aug 21+79d Downpatrick Quam Felix Sumus Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 22f · Yielding · 15 ran 2/15 4¾ 11-8 92104B110A Simon Torrens 10/1
21 May 21+18d Downpatrick Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 1) 21.5f · Yielding To Soft · 12 ran 7/12 99 11-7 9215C74C Thomas Reilly 20/1
03 May 21+29d Down Royal Money Back On The Boylesports App Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 16.5f · Yielding To Soft · 19 ran UR/19 — 11-4 92—— Thomas Reilly 33/1
04 Apr 21+27d Fairyhouse Ryan's Cleaning, Waste & Recycling Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 21 ran 11/21 2¾ 11-7 —46C87C Thomas Reilly 150/1
08 Mar 21+8d Leopardstown TRI Equestrian Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) 16f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 8/14 hd 11-9 —62B91A Simon Torrens 300/1
28 Feb 21 Naas Paddy Power Livestream UK & Irish Racing On The App Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 15.5f · Soft · 20 ran 16/20 1¾ 11-8 —31C90C Simon Torrens 250/1

Quick answers

How many races has No Logic (IRE) won?
No Logic (IRE) has yet to win, from 14 archived starts between 2021 and 2023. Placed 1 time in total (7.1% of starts).
Who trained No Logic (IRE)?
No Logic (IRE) was trained by Michael P Hourigan on the most recent run on record, at Killarney on 26 August 2023.
Who is No Logic (IRE)'s sire?
No Logic (IRE) is by Shantou (USA) out of Emma Ami (IRE), whose sire is Son Of Sharp Shot.
What is No Logic (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 26 August 2023. The highest on record is 103.
What is No Logic (IRE)'s sire's record?
Shantou (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.6% of 7,819 runs since Jan 2008 (539 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 20.3% from 158.
Who are No Logic (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Emma Ami (IRE), No Logic (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Prince Of Perth (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Prince Of Perth (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m1½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2021. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.