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Horse profile

No Never Again (IRE)

4yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2022) · Last trainer Matthew J Smith · Last owner Debbie Kelly
by No Nay Never (USA) out of Lily Mohawk (IRE) (Amadeus Wolf)
12 runs · 8 courses · from Oct 2020
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 13 Nov 2022 — 1,438 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2022
KTB Profile

No Never Again (IRE) is yet to win from 12 starts.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 97 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Dundalk (AW), 14 Jan 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 67C · median 61
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m267C61—
Flat 7 figures · best 109C · median 82
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good2109C105—
Standard (AW)297B89.5—
Soft248C46—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f348C44—
1m5f – 2m2101C99—
1m2f – 1m4f2109C95.5—

Of 12 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (3).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 89C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Punchestown, 13 Nov 2021

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 57A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Dundalk (AW), 14 Jan 2022 Official rating 49 at the last flat run, 29 Mar 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 2 figures · best 89C · median 86
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m289C86—
Flat 7 figures · best 57A · median 51
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good245A43.5—
Standard (AW)257A53—
Soft252A51.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f354C52—
1m5f – 2m257A49.5—
1m2f – 1m4f249A47—

Of 12 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
No Nay Never (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.1—
Good1,48918112.2%+0.10 from 2
Good to Soft612559%−3.10 from 1
Soft84310912.9%+0.80 from 6
Heavy2763613%+0.90 from 1
Standard (AW)2,14725311.8%−0.30 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91012213.4%+1.3—
6f – 7f3,37443713%+0.9—
1m – 1m1f1,17712911%−1.10 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f582549.3%−2.80 from 2
1m5f – 2m185147.6%−4.50 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.60 from 2
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lily Mohawk (IRE) (Amadeus Wolf)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
The Doonan (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Navan 4 0 0% −4.00
Dundalk (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Leigh Roche 3 0 0% −3.00
Liam McKenna 2 0 0% −2.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
Dean Curran 1 0 0% −1.00
Siobhan Rutledge 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Deegan 1 0 0% −1.00
Peter Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Mark Enright 1 0 0% −1.00
Robbie Colgan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie + blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2022 5 0 0% −5.00
2021 4 0 0% −4.00
2020 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 7 0 0% −7.00
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
13 Nov 22+227d Navan Kilberry Pub & Kitchen Maiden Hurdle 20f · Yielding · 19 ran PU/19 — 11-11 ——— Keith Donoghue 150/1
31 Mar 22+2d Naas Naas Racecourse Nursery Of Champions Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good To Yielding · 20 ran 13/20 nk 11-0 —55B83A Liam McKenna 200/1
29 Mar 22+67d Navan Tote Guarantee On All Win Bets Handicap (47-70) 13f · Good · 18 ran 14/18 4½ 8-8 49101C42C Leigh Roche 33/1
21 Jan 22+7d Dundalk (AW) DundalkStadium.com Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 12f · Standard · 14 ran 9/14 2 8-7 4982B49A Dean Curran 20/1
14 Jan 22+40d Dundalk (AW) Dundalk Winter Series Leading Trainer & Jockey Championship Handicap (45-65) 16f · Standard · 14 ran 7/14 nk 8-8 5097B57A Siobhan Rutledge 22/1
05 Dec 21+22d Cork Racing Again 8th January 2022 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 18 ran F/18 — 10-13 ——— Richard Deegan 100/1
13 Nov 21+64d Punchestown BetVictor Proud To Support Irish Racing 3-Y-O Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 12 ran 6/12 12 10-9 —67C89C Liam McKenna 125/1
10 Sep 21+62d Ballinrobe Ballinrobe 'a History In The Making' 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 18f · Yielding To Soft · 11 ran UR/11 — 11-0 ——— Peter Carberry 50/1
10 Jul 21+246d Navan NavanRacecourse.ie Handicap (45-65) (Div 2) 10f · Good · 16 ran 14/16 ¾ 8-9 54109C45A Leigh Roche 25/1
06 Nov 20+21d Curragh Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Maiden (Plus 10) 9f · Heavy · 11 ran 11/11 14 9-7 —6C54C Mark Enright 150/1
16 Oct 20+9d Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms EBF (C & G) Maiden (Plus 10) 8f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran 14/14 3 9-5 —48C52A Leigh Roche 200/1
07 Oct 20 Navan NavanRacecourse.ie Maiden (Plus 10) 8f · Soft · 11 ran 7/11 8½ 9-7 —44C51C Robbie Colgan 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has No Never Again (IRE) won?
No Never Again (IRE) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2020 and 2022.
Who trained No Never Again (IRE)?
No Never Again (IRE) was trained by Matthew J Smith on the most recent run on record, at Navan on 13 November 2022.
Who is No Never Again (IRE)'s sire?
No Never Again (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Lily Mohawk (IRE), whose sire is Amadeus Wolf.
What is No Never Again (IRE)'s official rating?
No Never Again (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 54.
What is No Never Again (IRE)'s sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
Who are No Never Again (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Lily Mohawk (IRE), No Never Again (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.