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Nodebateaboutit (GB)

9yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2014) · Last trainer Tom George · Last owner Sharon C Nelson Dermot Odonohoe
by Alflora (IRE) out of Mystere (IRE) (Montelimar)
15 runs · 10 courses · from Mar 2011
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 25 Apr 2014 — 4,562 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2014 2 wins · Lingfield & Wetherby Last raced off OR 111
KTB Profile

Nodebateaboutit (GB) is 2 from 15, both wins coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Jan 2012.

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 4
Official rating111↓ 5lb off peak
111 96–116

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 127A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Exeter, 21 Feb 2014 Official rating 111 at the last run, 25 Apr 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 130A · median 110
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft5127A116—
Heavy3130A101—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m6127A105.5—
Over 3m4130A117—

Of 15 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 15 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Alflora (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 5,312 runs since Jan 2008 (535 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%+0.2—
Good to Firm403307.4%−2.4—
Good1,6701539.2%−0.60 from 1
Good to Soft1,1821179.9%+0.10 from 2
Soft1,30715011.5%+1.72 from 7
Heavy698679.6%−0.20 from 5
Standard (AW)4237.1%−2.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−9.8—
1m – 1m1f400%−9.8—
1m2f – 1m4f3925.1%−4.7—
1m5f – 2m1,4721248.4%−1.4—
2m1f – 2m4f1,69116910%+0.20 from 1
2m5f – 3m1,61517010.5%+0.71 from 8
Over 3m4905611.4%+1.61 from 6

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Mystere (IRE) (Montelimar)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Song Saa (GB) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Song Saa (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Song Saa (GB)2462m3½f–2m6½fClass 3
Fire Within (GB)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 7 2 29% +6.50
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 9 2 22% +4.50
Class 3 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield 3 1 33% −0.50
Perth 2 0 0% −2.00
Exeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 2 0 0% −2.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 1 100% +10.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 8 1 13% −5.50
Over 3m 6 1 17% +5.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paddy Brennan 8 1 13% −5.50
Liam Heard 3 1 33% +8.00
Alain Cawley 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00
Gavin Sheehan 1 0 0% −1.00
Sam Twiston-Davies 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 7 0 0% −7.00
None 5 2 40% +8.50
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 4 0 0% −4.00
2013 4 0 0% −4.00
2012 3 1 33% −0.50
2011 4 1 25% +7.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 11 2 18% +2.50
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
25 Apr 14+30d Perth G A Engineering Highland National (Handicap Chase) (For The Julian Llewelyn Palmer Memorial Trophy) Class 3 · 30.5f · Soft · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-13 111— Alain Cawley 7/1
26 Mar 14+33d Exeter Higos Insurance Services Exeter Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-8 111— Paddy Brennan 85/40F
21 Feb 14+36d Exeter Bathwick Tyres Plymouth Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 10 ran 2/10 1¼ 10-11 104127A Paddy Brennan 4/1
16 Jan 14+17d Wincanton Higos Insurance Services Somerset National Handicap Chase Class 3 · 26.5f · Heavy · 9 ran 4/9 36 10-8 11190C Andrew Thornton 9/2
30 Dec 13+295d Haydock Apollobet Online Games And Casino Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 7 11-7 107116A Gavin Sheehan 7/1
10 Mar 13+30d Warwick racinguk.com Handicap Chase Class 3 · 29f · Soft · 10 ran 5/10 1 11-3 116110B Paddy Brennan 3/1F
08 Feb 13+35d Bangor-on-Dee Paramount Security Handicap Chase Class 4 · 29.5f · Heavy · 15 ran 2/15 2½ 11-3 111130A Paddy Brennan 5/1
04 Jan 13+20d Lingfield Ted Long Challenge Cup Handicap Chase (Div 2) Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-3 111— Liam Heard 6/1
15 Dec 12+232d Lingfield Daniel Pitchers Richmond Handicap Chase Class 3 · 24f · Heavy · 8 ran PU/8 — 10-11 111— Paddy Brennan 9/4F
27 Apr 12+99d Perth G A Engineering Highland National Handicap Chase Class 3 · 30.5f · Soft · 11 ran BD/11 — 10-13 111— Paddy Brennan 3/1F
19 Jan 12+24d Lingfield Lingfieldpark.co.uk Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 4 ran 1/4 11-5 102110B Paddy Brennan 6/4F
26 Dec 11+23d Wetherby Betfair Brings You Better Value Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-2 96124A Liam Heard 10/1
03 Dec 11+27d Chepstow Lindley Catering Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 23.5f · Heavy · 10 ran 6/10 1¼ 10-12 —101C Liam Heard 33/1
06 Nov 11+239d Ffos Las Blue Square Staying Novices' Hurdle (Series Qualifier) Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 12 10-12 —101C Paddy Brennan 16/1
12 Mar 11 Chepstow bet365.com 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 23.5f · Good · 16 ran 7/16 15 11-0 —92C Sam Twiston-Davies 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Nodebateaboutit (GB) won?
Nodebateaboutit (GB) won 2 of 15 archived starts between 2011 and 2014, a strike rate of 13.3%. Placed 4 times in total (26.7% of starts).
Who trained Nodebateaboutit (GB)?
Nodebateaboutit (GB) was trained by Tom George on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 25 April 2014.
Who is Nodebateaboutit (GB)'s sire?
Nodebateaboutit (GB) is by Alflora (IRE) out of Mystere (IRE), whose sire is Montelimar.
What going does Nodebateaboutit (GB) prefer?
Nodebateaboutit (GB) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 7 starts (28.6%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Nodebateaboutit (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 111, from the run on 25 April 2014. The highest on record is 116.
What is Nodebateaboutit (GB)'s sire's record?
Alflora (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 5,312 runs since Jan 2008 (535 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Nodebateaboutit (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Mystere (IRE), Nodebateaboutit (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Song Saa (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Song Saa (GB)). The wins came over 2m3½f–2m6½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.