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Horse profile

Not My Idea (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2013) · Last trainer Patrick J Flynn · Last owner Patrick Mcginn
by Tomba (GB) out of Minnie KC (IRE) (Toca MaderaI)
19 runs · 10 courses · from Sep 2010
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Jul 2013 — 4,860 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2013 · 7th of 17 Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 96
KTB Profile

Not My Idea (IRE) is yet to win from 19 starts, though has placed 4 times. Best effort: 3rd of 16 at Wexford (May 2012).

Based on 19 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating96↓ 5lb off peak
96 47–101

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 106A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 7 Jul 2013 Official rating 96 at the last jumps run, 7 Jul 2013

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 66A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wexford, 19 May 2012 Official rating 48 at the last flat run, 23 May 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 122A · median 106
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5122A110—
Good to Firm2106A102.5—
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m7118A106—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 9 figures · best 66A · median 48
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm360A49—
Soft366A58—
Good248A43—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f458A48—
1m5f – 2m366A60—
1m – 1m1f1———
6f – 7f1———

Of 19 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 19 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Tomba (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 847 runs since Jan 2008 (52 horses).

Strongest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 11.1% from 216.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm9111.1%+3.3—
Good to Firm134129%+1.20 from 5
Good174126.9%−0.90 from 3
Good to Soft981010.2%+2.40 from 1
Soft159127.5%−0.30 from 8
Heavy6334.8%−30 from 2
Standard (AW)210167.6%−0.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f114108.8%+1—
6f – 7f196136.6%−1.20 from 1
1m – 1m1f2162411.1%+3.30 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f125129.6%+1.80 from 4
1m5f – 2m13875.1%−2.70 from 11
2m1f – 2m4f4200%−7.80 from 1
2m5f – 3m1200%−7.80 from 1
Over 3m400%−7.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Minnie KC (IRE) (Toca MaderaI)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Sharp Hunter (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sharp Hunter (IRE)425f–6f—
Kingspan Ellie (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 8 0 0% −8.00
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Limerick 3 0 0% −3.00
Gowran Park 3 0 0% −3.00
Wexford 3 0 0% −3.00
Clonmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Tramore 2 0 0% −2.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 11 0 0% −11.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Stephen Gray 4 0 0% −4.00
Andrew J McNamara 3 0 0% −3.00
Danny Grant 3 0 0% −3.00
A P Heskin 2 0 0% −2.00
Keith Maher 2 0 0% −2.00
Ian Queally 1 0 0% −1.00
Ms A F Bowles 1 0 0% −1.00
Michael Hussey 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor Hoban 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr D J Benson 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 16 0 0% −16.00
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 4 0 0% −4.00
2012 5 0 0% −5.00
2011 8 0 0% −8.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 10 0 0% −10.00
Flat 9 0 0% −9.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 4 runs
07 Jul 13+45d Limerick Nathan Carter Play Live 25th July Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 21f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 7/17 3¼ 10-6 96106A A P Heskin 16/1
23 May 13+75d Clonmel Jossestown Handicap (47-65) 10f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 9/15 1¼ 8-2 4849A Ian Queally 10/1
09 Mar 13+9d Gowran Park Goresbridge Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Heavy · 14 ran PU/14 — 11-0 97— Andrew J McNamara 11/1
28 Feb 13+272d Thurles Tipperary (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 16f · Soft · 14 ran 7/14 1 11-3 98106A Ms A F Bowles 14/1
2012 · 5 runs
01 Jun 12+13d Down Royal Blackberry Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 9/14 nse 10-13 9999A Stephen Gray 8/1
19 May 12+13d Wexford Owenduff Handicap (47-65) 14f · Yielding · 16 ran 3/16 ¾ 8-11 4766A Michael Hussey 10/1
06 May 12+50d Gowran Park Goresbridge Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 20f · Yielding · 18 ran 4/18 1¼ 11-5 98122A Stephen Gray 20/1
17 Mar 12+23d Wexford Michael O'Murchadha Memorial Novice Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Soft · 16 ran 12/16 3½ 11-0 10090A Stephen Gray 14/1
23 Feb 12+102d Thurles Prime Beef Handicap Hurdle (81-116) 16f · Heavy · 10 ran 8/10 2½ 10-9 10194A Stephen Gray 10/1
2011 · 8 runs
13 Nov 11+38d Limerick Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 18 ran 3/18 1¾ 11-7 —113A A P Heskin 16/1
06 Oct 11+11d Tramore www.tramore-racecourse.com Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 14 ran 4/14 8½ 11-8 —110A Andrew J McNamara 10/3F
25 Sep 11+76d Clonmel Laganore Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 hd 11-2 —118A Andrew J McNamara 25/1
11 Jul 11+37d Killarney Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-65) 11f · Good · 12 ran 10/12 11 8-8 4838C Conor Hoban 12/1
04 Jun 11+15d Tramore 'Tote Trifecta Rollover' Handicap (47-65) 14f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 8/9 3 8-13 5042A Danny Grant 14/1
20 May 11+8d Wexford Owenduff Handicap (47-65) (Div 2) 14f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 6/15 nk 9-1 5360A Danny Grant 16/1
12 May 11+37d Gowran Park Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-60) 9.5f · Good · 17 ran 14/17 ½ 9-5 5548A Mr D J Benson 16/1
05 Apr 11+176d Limerick Limerick Run Maiden 11.5f · Soft · 15 ran 9/15 nk 9-7 —58A Danny Grant 50/1
2010 · 2 runs
11 Oct 10+22d Curragh Animalintex Maiden 12f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran 12/18 5½ 8-12 —47C Keith Maher 50/1
19 Sep 10 Fairyhouse Ratoath Maiden 6f · Soft · 17 ran 15/17 2½ 8-12 —36C Keith Maher 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Not My Idea won?
Not My Idea (IRE) has yet to win, from 19 archived starts between 2010 and 2013. Placed 4 times in total (21.1% of starts).
Who trained Not My Idea?
Not My Idea (IRE) was trained by Patrick J Flynn on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 7 July 2013.
Who is Not My Idea's sire?
Not My Idea (IRE) is by Tomba (GB) out of Minnie KC (IRE), whose sire is Toca MaderaI.
What is Not My Idea's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 96, from the run on 7 July 2013. The highest on record is 101.
What is Not My Idea's sire's record?
Tomba (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 847 runs since Jan 2008 (52 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 11.1% from 216.
Who are Not My Idea's siblings?
Out of Minnie KC (IRE), Not My Idea (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Sharp Hunter (IRE) (2). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.